We’re Not Done - Pastor Matthew K. Thompson & Pastor Matthew Thompson Jr. | Faithly Podcast

1 00:00:00.380 --> 00:00:01.800 The first day we had 40 registered. 2 00:00:02.200 --> 00:00:02.300 Yeah. 3 00:00:02.400 --> 00:00:06.100 And then I was like, but if you want to get back, like we can do 4 00:00:06.100 --> 00:00:07.780 spontaneous, like whatever you want to do. 5 00:00:07.800 --> 00:00:11.020 And on that first night, we ended up baptizing 150 people. 6 00:00:11.200 --> 00:00:13.820 And then the next morning, one of my leaders called me. 7 00:00:13.860 --> 00:00:15.920 I was like, I heard the Lord say, we're not done. 8 00:00:16.280 --> 00:00:19.140 And so I got up on the stage and was like, Hey, we're going to do 9 00:00:19.140 --> 00:00:20.180 more baptisms tonight. 10 00:00:27.460 --> 00:00:29.700 This is the Faithly podcast. 11 00:00:31.040 --> 00:00:34.100 Welcome to another episode of Faithly stories podcast. 12 00:00:34.240 --> 00:00:38.500 My name is pastor Adam Durso, and I am sitting with two of my favorite people 13 00:00:38.500 --> 00:00:43.820 on the planet, pastor Matthew Keith Thompson, senior pastor at Jubilee and soon 14 00:00:43.820 --> 00:00:48.160 to be pastor Matthew Thompson, the youth pastor here at Jubilee. 15 00:00:48.160 --> 00:00:49.220 What's good. 16 00:00:49.980 --> 00:00:55.540 Let me just say, this is the early morning edition of faithfully stories 17 00:00:55.540 --> 00:00:55.920 podcast. 18 00:00:56.120 --> 00:00:59.380 I was getting up after a late night at church last night. 19 00:00:59.640 --> 00:01:03.459 I'm thinking to myself, there are only a couple of people in the entire globe 20 00:01:03.459 --> 00:01:07.440 that could get me to film a podcast at seven o'clock in the morning. 21 00:01:08.100 --> 00:01:11.900 And one of them happens to be my brother to my left pastor Matthew Thompson, 22 00:01:12.060 --> 00:01:12.260 man. 23 00:01:12.680 --> 00:01:15.500 Why are we here at this time? 24 00:01:16.540 --> 00:01:17.640 God's not up. 25 00:01:17.720 --> 00:01:20.180 He's still answering prayers from Asia right now. 26 00:01:20.440 --> 00:01:29.820 Well, according to the Bible said you should pray early in the morning before 27 00:01:29.820 --> 00:01:31.320 the sun came up. 28 00:01:31.480 --> 00:01:36.340 So why, but, but there's a prayer culture, a morning prayer culture that you 29 00:01:36.340 --> 00:01:40.580 have established here that your father established before you speak to that. 30 00:01:40.880 --> 00:01:46.100 Yeah, man, I think that, um, it's important that we recognize the importance of 31 00:01:46.100 --> 00:01:50.400 prioritization and that to prioritize the presence of God. 32 00:01:50.680 --> 00:01:54.440 I'm not saying that you can't pray at night. 33 00:01:54.680 --> 00:01:58.240 I'm not saying that you can't pray during the day. 34 00:01:58.680 --> 00:02:04.200 I just feel as though if you're gonna seek the face of God, you should probably 35 00:02:04.200 --> 00:02:08.900 do it before you, you know, have all these other challenges or pressures or 36 00:02:08.900 --> 00:02:13.140 just the complexities of life, just kind of like weighing down on you, but also 37 00:02:13.140 --> 00:02:19.560 just, you know, proof of concept, you know, I have tried to pray kind of like 38 00:02:19.560 --> 00:02:21.060 before I went to bed, you know what I'm saying? 39 00:02:21.500 --> 00:02:24.360 And, uh, I mean, just tried and failed, tried and failed. 40 00:02:24.360 --> 00:02:28.220 Like, you know, I sat, I sat out, I got on my knees, I was about 41 00:02:28.220 --> 00:02:31.500 to go to sleep and I'm like, all right, I'm about to go in. 42 00:02:31.620 --> 00:02:32.840 And then I can't read times. 43 00:02:32.920 --> 00:02:37.180 I just like saw myself laying down, hitting the pillow, waking up saying, Lord, 44 00:02:37.180 --> 00:02:39.660 I'm so sorry, Lord, please forgive me. 45 00:02:40.000 --> 00:02:42.560 But I mean, years ago, I wrote a book called Atmosphere Shift. 46 00:02:42.640 --> 00:02:47.640 And I said that there are prevailing atmospheres, there are prevailing, um, 47 00:02:47.820 --> 00:02:54.800 just cultures and spaces that, that affect your, your ability to really not 48 00:02:54.800 --> 00:02:57.060 necessarily talk to God, but hear his voice. 49 00:02:57.420 --> 00:03:02.620 And so there's something about the stillness in the morning where you can hear 50 00:03:02.620 --> 00:03:07.800 him before, before all the cars are hustling, bustling before your children, 51 00:03:08.000 --> 00:03:09.380 you're getting ready for school, whatever. 52 00:03:09.540 --> 00:03:15.060 You're just like a stomp, a calm stillness where you can hear God, because 53 00:03:15.060 --> 00:03:18.640 prayer is not just me communicating with him, but him being able to, it's not 54 00:03:18.640 --> 00:03:21.180 just a laundry list of needs. 55 00:03:21.200 --> 00:03:23.420 It's God, I want to hear from you a hundred percent. 56 00:03:23.580 --> 00:03:28.020 And for me early in the morning is the best time where I hear the voice 57 00:03:28.020 --> 00:03:28.260 of God. 58 00:03:28.360 --> 00:03:33.540 And you're, you've inherited a prayer culture from your dad because when he was 59 00:03:33.540 --> 00:03:36.000 called to plant in the Northeast, we're up here in Boston. 60 00:03:36.440 --> 00:03:39.800 And this is, you know, this is the place where church planting goes to die. 61 00:03:40.700 --> 00:03:46.660 And yet Jubilee 43 years in is thriving, launching campuses, launching people 62 00:03:46.660 --> 00:03:47.020 out. 63 00:03:47.200 --> 00:03:50.860 I mean, the music that comes out of this house is literally reverberating 64 00:03:50.860 --> 00:03:51.560 around the world. 65 00:03:52.020 --> 00:03:56.320 Speak to the correlation between the prayer culture and the growth of the 66 00:03:56.320 --> 00:03:57.160 church and what's happening. 67 00:03:57.160 --> 00:03:59.720 God be the glory for the great things that he has done. 68 00:03:59.840 --> 00:04:09.160 You know, I'm honored that my dad, the living legend, came to Boston in 1972, 69 00:04:09.640 --> 00:04:13.380 the year I was born, to pastor a small denomination on church. 70 00:04:13.500 --> 00:04:17.860 And after 10 years in 1982, the Lord stepped out in faith to establish New 71 00:04:17.860 --> 00:04:18.980 Covenant, now Jubilee. 72 00:04:19.860 --> 00:04:25.420 And you know, earlier into his ministry, the Lord started to speak to him and 73 00:04:25.420 --> 00:04:28.740 the Lord was saying to him, you don't pray enough. 74 00:04:29.580 --> 00:04:34.240 And he took that to mean, all right, I got to spend some more time in 75 00:04:34.240 --> 00:04:34.480 prayer. 76 00:04:34.600 --> 00:04:38.980 So he moved his prayer time from praying an hour a day to two hours a 77 00:04:38.980 --> 00:04:41.000 day, from two hours a day to three hours a day. 78 00:04:41.160 --> 00:04:46.000 And even after all of that, he still kept on hearing the Lord say, you don't 79 00:04:46.000 --> 00:04:46.560 pray enough. 80 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:50.100 And he realized that it wasn't just him. 81 00:04:50.420 --> 00:04:52.440 It was his congregation. 82 00:04:52.440 --> 00:04:53.760 It was his family. 83 00:04:53.940 --> 00:04:59.860 It was a generational move to get the body of Christ to unite together in 84 00:04:59.860 --> 00:05:00.060 prayer. 85 00:05:00.160 --> 00:05:05.320 So he launched, you know, early morning prayer services from five to six, six 86 00:05:05.320 --> 00:05:11.800 to seven, everyday God sends for well over now 43 years, we've been praying. 87 00:05:11.980 --> 00:05:16.340 In this building, we've been praying for 33 years, but as a ministry for 43 88 00:05:16.340 --> 00:05:21.840 years, Boston, Stoughton, Worcester, with more locations to come, the 89 00:05:21.840 --> 00:05:25.360 foundation pillar of this church is prayer. 90 00:05:26.340 --> 00:05:29.200 And, you know, God just breathed on it. 91 00:05:29.480 --> 00:05:34.580 And it was like, you know, fire and wind and, and the wind of God, and 92 00:05:34.580 --> 00:05:37.800 God just has done something supernatural and it's marvelous in our eyes. 93 00:05:38.100 --> 00:05:40.680 And obviously it's a generational movement. 94 00:05:41.000 --> 00:05:41.940 It's a generational movement. 95 00:05:42.180 --> 00:05:49.220 And, and Matt, Maddie, my, my nephew, uh, I mean, it's generational because the 96 00:05:49.220 --> 00:05:50.340 young people have caught on. 97 00:05:50.580 --> 00:05:53.420 There are more young people up at the front during convention. 98 00:05:54.100 --> 00:05:57.660 I mean, I I've, I've been in 12 hours of prayer since the very first 12 99 00:05:57.660 --> 00:05:58.160 hour prayer. 100 00:05:58.280 --> 00:06:02.020 And you get to three, four in the morning and 50% of the room is 101 00:06:02.020 --> 00:06:02.900 under 35. 102 00:06:03.020 --> 00:06:03.820 I mean, it's great. 103 00:06:04.080 --> 00:06:09.360 So what generationally, how has that prayer culture infused in the young 104 00:06:09.360 --> 00:06:09.520 people? 105 00:06:09.540 --> 00:06:12.960 Because all I keep hearing from commentators is, you know, young people just 106 00:06:12.960 --> 00:06:14.620 leaving the church, they out, they gone. 107 00:06:14.840 --> 00:06:16.720 That is not the case here. 108 00:06:16.860 --> 00:06:17.460 It's not the truth. 109 00:06:17.660 --> 00:06:18.720 It's not the truth at all. 110 00:06:19.040 --> 00:06:23.140 And I think, you know, one thing that I, I respect about dad and I love 111 00:06:23.140 --> 00:06:29.900 about dad is he always gives honor to his father for, you know, the legacy that 112 00:06:29.900 --> 00:06:30.520 he's left. 113 00:06:30.840 --> 00:06:34.220 Um, but my dad is a goat too. 114 00:06:34.560 --> 00:06:39.340 And when COVID happened, he immediately just pivoted. 115 00:06:39.960 --> 00:06:44.360 The whole world was shut down and then goes right online, Facebook, Instagram, 116 00:06:44.520 --> 00:06:45.340 YouTube, all of it. 117 00:06:45.480 --> 00:06:49.240 So that even though we couldn't meet in the building and pray, we're able to go 118 00:06:49.240 --> 00:06:50.220 on social media and pray. 119 00:06:50.500 --> 00:06:54.780 And now every single morning we're online and praying and more and more people 120 00:06:54.780 --> 00:06:56.380 are able to come and participate. 121 00:06:56.660 --> 00:06:58.300 And I think, can we just pause it for a second? 122 00:06:58.360 --> 00:07:01.460 Cause I want you to, I want you to talk about the impact on the next 123 00:07:01.460 --> 00:07:01.900 generation. 124 00:07:01.900 --> 00:07:07.140 But last night I was getting ready to do a segment of the service and you 125 00:07:07.140 --> 00:07:10.800 grabbed me in the corner and you knew I would honor your dad because he's my 126 00:07:10.800 --> 00:07:12.360 best friend and I love him. 127 00:07:12.420 --> 00:07:16.100 He's my brother, but you were like, Hey man, like he does such a great job 128 00:07:16.100 --> 00:07:19.200 honoring and rarely do we have an opportunity. 129 00:07:19.340 --> 00:07:21.960 And I've seen this, you know, he does such a great job. 130 00:07:22.120 --> 00:07:24.820 I rarely do we see him honored. 131 00:07:24.980 --> 00:07:29.320 Could you just take a moment and honor your dad for all the, all the, all 132 00:07:29.320 --> 00:07:33.900 the dads and sons that watching what, what that means when you, when you, when 133 00:07:33.900 --> 00:07:36.840 you speak directly to your dad and say, Hey man, you're the go-to. 134 00:07:37.280 --> 00:07:37.600 Oh man. 135 00:07:37.900 --> 00:07:43.040 Like I, last night I had the opportunity to, to pray for some PKs. 136 00:07:43.280 --> 00:07:46.840 And before I prayed for them, you know, my dad was standing right next to me 137 00:07:46.840 --> 00:07:52.700 and I told them a testimony that I have that literally like it, it chokes me 138 00:07:52.700 --> 00:07:56.080 up every time I think about it because there was a day I looked at my 139 00:07:56.080 --> 00:07:59.940 dad and this is when I was like 19 years old dealing with substance abuse, 140 00:08:00.060 --> 00:08:04.040 dealing with pornography, addiction, sex addiction, just all these different 141 00:08:04.040 --> 00:08:04.380 things. 142 00:08:04.780 --> 00:08:06.860 And I told him, I was like, oh dad, I'm always going to be addicted. 143 00:08:07.300 --> 00:08:09.760 And he looked at me and he was like, no son, no, you're not. 144 00:08:10.040 --> 00:08:11.740 He was like, God has something more for you. 145 00:08:12.020 --> 00:08:16.920 And it's, it's the moments like that, that I like really cherish from my pops 146 00:08:16.920 --> 00:08:20.160 that my father has been there for me for everything. 147 00:08:20.540 --> 00:08:25.180 So when I say he's the goat, like he's not just like, he's an amazing pastor. 148 00:08:25.280 --> 00:08:27.080 He's an amazing preacher, amazing communicator. 149 00:08:27.080 --> 00:08:29.200 Like I said, amazing prayer warrior. 150 00:08:29.460 --> 00:08:34.020 He, I know he gives honor to his dad, but like my grandfather, but he shifted 151 00:08:34.020 --> 00:08:35.260 things for real. 152 00:08:35.760 --> 00:08:40.080 And, um, with all of those things, he's, he's been an amazing father. 153 00:08:40.460 --> 00:08:45.140 And, um, I tell people all the time that the reason that I know how amazing 154 00:08:45.140 --> 00:08:51.560 God the father is, is because I've got to see my dad as a father, um, 155 00:08:51.860 --> 00:08:57.720 be an amazing father to me and not just to me, but to my sister, um, 156 00:08:57.820 --> 00:09:03.540 my nieces, my nephew, I mean, they, they took them in and raised them, um, for 157 00:09:03.540 --> 00:09:04.000 a season. 158 00:09:04.000 --> 00:09:09.320 And so I get to see him not just father me, but also father others. 159 00:09:09.320 --> 00:09:15.320 I've, I've watched him almost father, some of my cousins, father people that he 160 00:09:15.320 --> 00:09:16.100 doesn't even know. 161 00:09:16.120 --> 00:09:16.340 Yeah. 162 00:09:16.360 --> 00:09:19.680 And so spiritual sons and daughters all over, all over the place. 163 00:09:19.680 --> 00:09:24.040 And so, um, you know, yesterday, the reason, the reason I came over to you and 164 00:09:24.040 --> 00:09:27.420 says, cause I'm just like, even, I was in a conversation with my mom the other 165 00:09:27.420 --> 00:09:27.680 day. 166 00:09:27.680 --> 00:09:31.880 And it was this one thing that dad has always done is made sure that the 167 00:09:31.880 --> 00:09:33.580 honor has gone to his father. 168 00:09:34.000 --> 00:09:36.580 And I want to make sure that I can do the same thing for him. 169 00:09:36.760 --> 00:09:40.060 And so I knew yesterday I was like, I know I was going to honor him, 170 00:09:40.080 --> 00:09:43.020 but I want to make sure that we, that we get over there. 171 00:09:43.100 --> 00:09:44.460 We, we get them for sure. 172 00:09:44.660 --> 00:09:44.920 You know? 173 00:09:44.920 --> 00:09:45.100 All right. 174 00:09:45.100 --> 00:09:46.960 So we're going to let him, you know, get his stuff together. 175 00:09:47.340 --> 00:09:49.100 You're crying too on this side, man. 176 00:09:49.600 --> 00:09:50.020 I'm mad. 177 00:09:50.140 --> 00:09:51.440 I might just have to do a model. 178 00:09:53.220 --> 00:09:56.120 He said he was a weeping prophet. 179 00:09:56.360 --> 00:10:03.020 I think, I think the key thing that in this moment is that it's like from 180 00:10:03.020 --> 00:10:05.820 one generation to the next generation. 181 00:10:05.820 --> 00:10:11.580 And it's like the beautiful thing I love about my dad and his ministry is that 182 00:10:11.580 --> 00:10:13.920 his vision was so expansive. 183 00:10:14.360 --> 00:10:21.020 It gave room for generations to say, Hey, like, I think I can pick up that 184 00:10:21.020 --> 00:10:21.440 mantle. 185 00:10:21.700 --> 00:10:22.020 You know what I'm saying? 186 00:10:22.120 --> 00:10:24.720 And it's like, you could build upon the foundation. 187 00:10:24.980 --> 00:10:30.240 It's like, like his shoulders, I'm standing on his shoulders and his ceiling 188 00:10:30.240 --> 00:10:31.460 became my floor. 189 00:10:32.020 --> 00:10:38.400 And my prayer is that, and I mean, and tonight, obviously tonight, man, my, my 190 00:10:38.400 --> 00:10:43.300 son is going to be ordained right where we are seated right now. 191 00:10:44.420 --> 00:10:51.860 And he will be now a fifth generation preacher and pastor and legacy builder 192 00:10:51.860 --> 00:10:59.160 and yielder and his great, great, great grandmother, my great, great 193 00:10:59.160 --> 00:11:08.240 grandmother prayed that, that God would bless his, her daughter's 194 00:11:08.240 --> 00:11:11.560 children's children's children's children. 195 00:11:12.140 --> 00:11:16.680 And so mother Staten is, is in heaven right now. 196 00:11:16.820 --> 00:11:21.120 She's with the cloud of witnesses right now watching this prophetic moment. 197 00:11:21.360 --> 00:11:24.120 But I had something to build upon. 198 00:11:24.280 --> 00:11:29.580 So it's like when COVID happened, but even before then, it's like, I realized 199 00:11:29.580 --> 00:11:35.380 that prayer had to be transferable because prayer is generational. 200 00:11:35.820 --> 00:11:35.920 Yes. 201 00:11:36.280 --> 00:11:39.500 Prayer is transformational, but prayer is transferable. 202 00:11:39.800 --> 00:11:39.980 Yes. 203 00:11:40.120 --> 00:11:44.960 So it had to be a transferable thing where generations could say, okay, I can, 204 00:11:45.080 --> 00:11:45.920 I can grab this. 205 00:11:46.000 --> 00:11:47.080 I can catch on to this. 206 00:11:47.160 --> 00:11:51.080 So whether that was 24 hours of prayer, whether that 12 hours of prayer, about 207 00:11:51.080 --> 00:11:56.640 midnight prayer services, where it was about this, even shifting how we even 208 00:11:56.640 --> 00:12:03.000 like, like packaged prayer, because I mean, we grew up in a day where all night 209 00:12:03.000 --> 00:12:09.400 of prayer was literally like one old guy sitting in the room, literally just 210 00:12:09.400 --> 00:12:11.500 kind of like, Oh God. 211 00:12:11.660 --> 00:12:15.520 And I remember being in those types of prayer services, sitting in the back of 212 00:12:15.520 --> 00:12:19.780 a room in the basement of a church, thinking to myself, this is not 213 00:12:19.780 --> 00:12:20.440 transferable. 214 00:12:20.940 --> 00:12:25.480 And so I'm believing even, even now, son, I'm believing I'm probably, I'm 215 00:12:25.480 --> 00:12:33.280 believing that whatever, whatever my great grandmother prayed, whatever my 216 00:12:33.280 --> 00:12:36.660 grandmother has prayed, whatever my father has prayed. 217 00:12:36.800 --> 00:12:41.900 Now, whatever your father has prayed that man, like, like there's nothing that 218 00:12:41.900 --> 00:12:45.380 is that there are some things that are secret, but there are some things like 219 00:12:45.380 --> 00:12:47.720 everything can, it's transferable. 220 00:12:47.920 --> 00:12:53.440 Like now you can hear from God for your generation and, and shift something and 221 00:12:53.440 --> 00:12:59.000 establish something that'll take our prayer ministry for generations to a whole 222 00:12:59.000 --> 00:12:59.460 nother place. 223 00:12:59.460 --> 00:13:00.160 Just like I did. 224 00:13:00.260 --> 00:13:06.280 You know, I oftentimes quote the idea that whatever you don't celebrate, 225 00:13:06.360 --> 00:13:07.480 eventually you forfeit. 226 00:13:08.140 --> 00:13:11.760 And in many churches, they don't celebrate the next generation, or there's this 227 00:13:11.760 --> 00:13:13.220 collision of old and young. 228 00:13:13.440 --> 00:13:14.740 I don't see that here. 229 00:13:15.280 --> 00:13:19.240 I see a celebration of younger people coming in the door. 230 00:13:19.740 --> 00:13:20.700 I see a celebration. 231 00:13:20.900 --> 00:13:24.700 The diversity amongst your youth group is crazy. 232 00:13:24.960 --> 00:13:28.860 It is just, I mean, speak to what God is stirring and doing here in the 233 00:13:28.860 --> 00:13:30.800 youth ministry, young adult ministry at Jubilee. 234 00:13:31.000 --> 00:13:31.460 Yeah, for sure. 235 00:13:31.540 --> 00:13:37.680 I mean, for the past five years, I've been with the youth ministry, just kind 236 00:13:37.680 --> 00:13:38.680 of spearheading that. 237 00:13:38.840 --> 00:13:42.140 And then over the past two years, I've been doing both the youth and young 238 00:13:42.140 --> 00:13:42.700 adults ministry. 239 00:13:43.380 --> 00:13:45.260 And me and my wife got married two years ago. 240 00:13:45.320 --> 00:13:48.000 And so now we, we lead those ministries together. 241 00:13:48.240 --> 00:13:51.860 And you know, when, when I first took over what citywide, which is our youth 242 00:13:51.860 --> 00:13:54.620 ministry, we went from 30 students to 300. 243 00:13:55.480 --> 00:13:58.520 And then now in terms of our college. 244 00:13:58.740 --> 00:14:00.440 From 30 to 300 to 3,000. 245 00:14:00.580 --> 00:14:01.040 Yes, yes. 246 00:14:01.380 --> 00:14:05.900 Well, we got, we got to talk about bone blue for a second, because we're going 247 00:14:05.900 --> 00:14:06.300 to get there. 248 00:14:06.420 --> 00:14:08.340 Cause that was just some next level. 249 00:14:08.840 --> 00:14:09.240 Okay. 250 00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:10.040 So for sure. 251 00:14:11.120 --> 00:14:14.220 But yeah, when, when we took over, you know, it's so interesting, I was 252 00:14:14.220 --> 00:14:18.100 thinking about this on the way here that sometimes I feel like, you know, we, 253 00:14:18.180 --> 00:14:21.800 we talk about a theme of the year that the Lord kind of like reveals something 254 00:14:21.800 --> 00:14:24.700 to pops and it's like, that's what the theme is. 255 00:14:24.900 --> 00:14:25.040 Yes. 256 00:14:25.100 --> 00:14:29.460 And I feel like sometimes with those themes, it's like, there are moments where 257 00:14:29.460 --> 00:14:33.620 we can hear something from the Lord and we go out and we go after it. 258 00:14:33.660 --> 00:14:35.860 And we're like, this is what God is getting ready to do. 259 00:14:36.000 --> 00:14:39.220 And then sometimes I think God reveals it to you that when you declare it, 260 00:14:39.220 --> 00:14:40.060 it'll begin to happen. 261 00:14:40.720 --> 00:14:44.820 And so in this year, especially when it comes to, you know, our theme is this 262 00:14:44.820 --> 00:14:45.740 is the year of revival. 263 00:14:45.920 --> 00:14:50.440 What I've noticed is it's like, that has been not just a vision, but a 264 00:14:50.440 --> 00:14:50.920 declaration. 265 00:14:51.300 --> 00:14:54.460 And so now there is revival that is happening. 266 00:14:54.560 --> 00:14:59.340 And I've seen all over social media that there's people that are in arguments 267 00:14:59.340 --> 00:15:03.620 over like what revival is like, Oh, revival isn't a thousand people in a 268 00:15:03.620 --> 00:15:07.920 sanctuary, just like, you know, getting hype, but it's like, well, let's look 269 00:15:07.920 --> 00:15:09.460 at the definition of revival. 270 00:15:10.100 --> 00:15:14.260 Definition of revival is that there is an increase in popularity. 271 00:15:14.580 --> 00:15:19.060 And it's like, that's what my generation is experiencing right now, that there 272 00:15:19.060 --> 00:15:25.840 is an increase in popularity of not, I do want to pray for 12 hours. 273 00:15:25.960 --> 00:15:27.200 I do want to worship. 274 00:15:27.440 --> 00:15:28.480 I do want to hear a word. 275 00:15:28.580 --> 00:15:30.920 I do want to be in the building and celebrate. 276 00:15:31.120 --> 00:15:35.540 And it's like, you know, what what's been happening over the last five years 277 00:15:35.540 --> 00:15:40.960 within our church is there has been a revival in the next generation that has 278 00:15:40.960 --> 00:15:42.280 increased the popularity. 279 00:15:42.620 --> 00:15:47.180 Like it's almost like being Christian is cool now, which there's a, there's a 280 00:15:47.180 --> 00:15:51.540 balance to that because if you think it's all cool, then you neglect the 281 00:15:51.540 --> 00:15:51.960 suffering. 282 00:15:52.060 --> 00:15:52.240 Yeah. 283 00:15:52.260 --> 00:15:56.880 But it's like, at the same time, Hey, let's let, let's get them thinking. 284 00:15:56.900 --> 00:15:57.720 It's cool thinking. 285 00:15:57.820 --> 00:15:58.320 It's awesome. 286 00:15:58.460 --> 00:16:01.080 So that it's easier for them to go through that. 287 00:16:01.080 --> 00:16:03.260 My youth ministry in the nineties, I say it all the time. 288 00:16:03.420 --> 00:16:05.860 Like the kid that was in church was uncool. 289 00:16:05.960 --> 00:16:09.900 And then all of a sudden it turned and now peer pressure was reversed because 290 00:16:09.900 --> 00:16:10.960 peer pressure can be neutral. 291 00:16:11.300 --> 00:16:13.560 Your pressure could be negative or it can be positive. 292 00:16:13.900 --> 00:16:16.980 And now all of a sudden it was like, well, if you're not staying, if you're 293 00:16:16.980 --> 00:16:21.040 not hanging, if you're not really on fire for God that, you know, like you felt 294 00:16:21.040 --> 00:16:22.340 like the outsider somehow. 295 00:16:22.600 --> 00:16:29.020 And so code blue revival is a tangible evidence of the revival that is 296 00:16:29.020 --> 00:16:29.880 happening at Jubilee. 297 00:16:30.040 --> 00:16:30.920 It's not theoretical. 298 00:16:31.500 --> 00:16:33.440 It's not like I can just give you a bunch of principles. 299 00:16:34.040 --> 00:16:35.280 What happened in August? 300 00:16:35.600 --> 00:16:41.380 Wait, wait, before you go there last year, one of the most incredible moments 301 00:16:41.380 --> 00:16:44.700 before we go to what happened this year, last year, the most incredible moments 302 00:16:44.700 --> 00:16:51.020 during cold blue revival last year, where the Lord spoke to my son to put out 303 00:16:51.020 --> 00:16:57.780 this, this water portico with two, uh, baptistry pools outside. 304 00:16:58.040 --> 00:17:03.460 They had like close to like 40 or 50 kids that were registered to get baptized. 305 00:17:03.859 --> 00:17:10.359 Uh, but in the course of two days, over 200 and 50 baptisms outside, outside, 306 00:17:10.920 --> 00:17:11.700 but it was the first time. 307 00:17:11.859 --> 00:17:13.380 So it was very interesting. 308 00:17:13.380 --> 00:17:16.020 So we had a team of about, you know, I have a team of like 40 309 00:17:16.020 --> 00:17:20.280 leaders last year when we were planning code blue and the theme was troubled 310 00:17:20.280 --> 00:17:20.700 waters. 311 00:17:21.079 --> 00:17:23.619 And so we created the pool of Bethesda outside. 312 00:17:23.960 --> 00:17:30.520 And so I remember like one day I was just like praying or just something. 313 00:17:30.620 --> 00:17:31.020 I don't know. 314 00:17:31.140 --> 00:17:32.680 The God, God just revealed it to me. 315 00:17:32.720 --> 00:17:34.980 It was just like, put the baptism pools outside. 316 00:17:35.180 --> 00:17:36.480 We had never done that as a church. 317 00:17:36.560 --> 00:17:39.400 Normally we do it right on the, on the stage so that we're all in the 318 00:17:39.400 --> 00:17:40.380 sanctuary we can celebrate. 319 00:17:40.460 --> 00:17:41.940 And I remember bringing it to the team. 320 00:17:42.100 --> 00:17:44.700 We're like, Hey fam, I think let's do this outside. 321 00:17:45.180 --> 00:17:48.100 Like, and everyone looked at me like I was crazy. 322 00:17:48.240 --> 00:17:51.100 They were like, they were like, well, how are we going to get it on video? 323 00:17:51.180 --> 00:17:52.220 How are we going to live stream it? 324 00:17:52.260 --> 00:17:55.920 How are we going to, and I'm like, cares, like, let's just, let's put it 325 00:17:55.920 --> 00:17:56.340 outside. 326 00:17:56.480 --> 00:18:01.100 We'll put it literally in our pool of Bethesda and let's just, let's baptize 327 00:18:01.100 --> 00:18:01.720 people out there. 328 00:18:01.940 --> 00:18:06.120 And I'm like, so yeah, over the, over the course of, it was literally maybe 36 329 00:18:06.120 --> 00:18:08.700 hours baptized over, over 250 people. 330 00:18:09.160 --> 00:18:13.300 And but the first day, the first day we had 40 registered and then I was 331 00:18:13.300 --> 00:18:17.440 like, but if you want to get back, like we can do spontaneous, like whatever 332 00:18:17.440 --> 00:18:17.880 you want to do. 333 00:18:17.940 --> 00:18:21.100 And on that first night we ended up baptizing 150 people. 334 00:18:21.240 --> 00:18:23.940 And then the next morning, one of my leaders called me. 335 00:18:23.980 --> 00:18:26.000 I was like, I heard the Lord say, we're not done. 336 00:18:26.460 --> 00:18:29.260 And so I got up on the stage and was like, Hey, we're going to do 337 00:18:29.260 --> 00:18:31.120 more baptisms tonight if you're down. 338 00:18:31.420 --> 00:18:32.460 But I know exactly what you're about. 339 00:18:32.460 --> 00:18:36.980 But on the first day that the pool of Bethesda was set up with two beverage 340 00:18:36.980 --> 00:18:39.840 pools, it was, it was before the services started. 341 00:18:40.300 --> 00:18:42.540 We were outside and we haven't recorded. 342 00:18:42.660 --> 00:18:47.740 We were outside and we're just, we just finished a staff meeting and we were 343 00:18:47.740 --> 00:18:49.920 just standing out there, just looking at the pools. 344 00:18:50.900 --> 00:18:58.040 And I mean, the sky was clear, sunny everywhere, beautiful day. 345 00:18:58.320 --> 00:19:02.000 But like out of nowhere, there was like this mist. 346 00:19:02.380 --> 00:19:06.720 It's just, it's just in the rain falling right over the back. 347 00:19:07.520 --> 00:19:11.740 And then that night while they were baptized, it happened again. 348 00:19:12.500 --> 00:19:18.940 The entire, it was dark midnight, you know, everywhere was dry and it wasn't a 349 00:19:18.940 --> 00:19:19.320 heavy rain. 350 00:19:19.400 --> 00:19:21.200 It was just like this mist. 351 00:19:21.540 --> 00:19:25.180 It was just kind of like, like the glory of the Lord was just kind of 352 00:19:25.180 --> 00:19:25.540 resting. 353 00:19:25.820 --> 00:19:30.500 And, and, and, and, you know, when I knew that this year, the theme was going 354 00:19:30.500 --> 00:19:35.200 to be revival, the Lord said, I agree with what my son is saying about, about 355 00:19:35.200 --> 00:19:37.780 the glory of the Lord gaining popularity. 356 00:19:38.060 --> 00:19:44.020 But it's like, we grew up thinking that revival was an event or revival was a 357 00:19:44.020 --> 00:19:47.260 group of services on revival night services. 358 00:19:47.640 --> 00:19:50.360 I mean, we, we grew up in a day where it's like, you know, our parents 359 00:19:50.360 --> 00:19:53.560 said, there's revival and you go somewhere and people will be rolling around. 360 00:19:54.080 --> 00:19:55.640 People set up tents and it was a tent revival. 361 00:19:56.220 --> 00:20:01.780 But, but the Lord said to me that revival is not a destination, but that it's 362 00:20:01.780 --> 00:20:02.280 a posture. 363 00:20:02.680 --> 00:20:09.600 And so what has happened is that there's a posture for prayer and the presence 364 00:20:09.600 --> 00:20:15.860 and, and the power of God that literally has rested, rested here. 365 00:20:16.000 --> 00:20:22.040 And I, I think this year during cold blue was another kind of evidence of just, 366 00:20:22.560 --> 00:20:25.400 I mean, I mean, I heard cold blue this year. 367 00:20:26.100 --> 00:20:30.120 And of course your dad and I talked multiple times a week and he was like, 368 00:20:30.380 --> 00:20:35.500 Adam, Adam, we broke every attendance record for any conference or anything 369 00:20:35.500 --> 00:20:36.620 we've ever done. 370 00:20:37.960 --> 00:20:39.060 Youth and young adults. 371 00:20:39.140 --> 00:20:39.940 Youth and young adults. 372 00:20:40.040 --> 00:20:41.820 Under what age do you think for the most part? 373 00:20:41.940 --> 00:20:42.640 Under 30. 374 00:20:42.840 --> 00:20:43.340 Under 30. 375 00:20:43.440 --> 00:20:44.240 So 90 plus. 376 00:20:44.540 --> 00:20:45.280 Maybe even younger than that. 377 00:20:45.380 --> 00:20:49.980 I mean, I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm thinking maybe it was probably like 10 to 20 378 00:20:49.980 --> 00:20:56.260 % over 30, but I'd say 80% of this room and the lower level and 379 00:20:56.260 --> 00:20:59.820 people standing outside all the place were, were. 380 00:20:59.900 --> 00:21:05.300 It was, it was the highest attendance that, that I've seen for our, our church 381 00:21:05.300 --> 00:21:06.440 just in general. 382 00:21:06.620 --> 00:21:14.260 I mean, by the first day, the first day, we maybe five hours before service hit 383 00:21:14.260 --> 00:21:15.580 over a thousand registrations. 384 00:21:15.980 --> 00:21:19.120 That was the most we had ever seen before. 385 00:21:19.460 --> 00:21:19.880 Registrations. 386 00:21:20.060 --> 00:21:20.200 Yeah. 387 00:21:20.320 --> 00:21:21.420 Literally just registrations. 388 00:21:21.640 --> 00:21:26.720 And then on, on Friday night for the first time in cold blue history, we did 389 00:21:26.720 --> 00:21:27.520 12 hours of prayer. 390 00:21:28.020 --> 00:21:33.640 And so, you know, as far as a prayer room started off like, oh no, 1200. 391 00:21:34.800 --> 00:21:36.580 Probably more than that, 15 downstairs. 392 00:21:36.720 --> 00:21:37.220 It was crazy. 393 00:21:37.500 --> 00:21:37.880 It was packed. 394 00:21:38.100 --> 00:21:42.800 And then by the, by the time we hit seven in the morning, youth and young 395 00:21:42.800 --> 00:21:44.600 adults, 600 people. 396 00:21:44.760 --> 00:21:45.120 Yeah. 397 00:21:46.440 --> 00:21:47.960 Just at the altar. 398 00:21:48.260 --> 00:21:49.520 I mean, absolutely insane. 399 00:21:49.680 --> 00:21:55.440 Part of code blue is also taking over the city, random acts of kindness. 400 00:21:56.400 --> 00:22:00.560 And, you know, I, I believe acts two doesn't end in the upper room for a 401 00:22:00.560 --> 00:22:00.760 reason. 402 00:22:00.940 --> 00:22:01.120 Wow. 403 00:22:01.240 --> 00:22:02.580 Too many Pentecostals. 404 00:22:03.300 --> 00:22:07.720 Acts two, the Holy spirit is poured out and we've got tongues of fire and we're 405 00:22:07.720 --> 00:22:08.520 speaking other languages. 406 00:22:08.620 --> 00:22:09.220 That's great. 407 00:22:09.440 --> 00:22:14.640 But it spills out into the street because when God is demonstrating something, 408 00:22:14.760 --> 00:22:16.340 it's not to be contained within four walls. 409 00:22:16.700 --> 00:22:19.160 It's supposed to, what was happening in Boston? 410 00:22:19.260 --> 00:22:23.100 And I was seeing all types of clips on social, like y'all were randomly paying 411 00:22:23.100 --> 00:22:24.780 for people's gas and groceries. 412 00:22:25.300 --> 00:22:26.640 And what was that like? 413 00:22:26.960 --> 00:22:31.080 I mean, we do Jubilee in the city every year, but it was actually dad this 414 00:22:31.080 --> 00:22:33.240 year that was like, we're going to do Jubilee in the city. 415 00:22:33.700 --> 00:22:39.320 Like monthly, like once the summer hit, he was like, we're going to do it once 416 00:22:39.320 --> 00:22:39.700 a month. 417 00:22:39.880 --> 00:22:44.180 And so we would go in Boston up and down blue Hill Ave and, you know, 418 00:22:44.220 --> 00:22:48.500 clean stores, clean streets, pay for people's gas, pay for people's groceries. 419 00:22:49.120 --> 00:22:49.980 And then pray. 420 00:22:50.140 --> 00:22:54.380 We'd set up, you know, prayer tables and different things and just literally 421 00:22:54.380 --> 00:22:55.760 just, just, just pray for people. 422 00:22:55.860 --> 00:22:58.000 We had people with shirts that said need prayer. 423 00:22:58.620 --> 00:22:59.780 Someone would walk up. 424 00:23:00.300 --> 00:23:01.020 I need prayer. 425 00:23:01.120 --> 00:23:01.340 Yeah. 426 00:23:01.680 --> 00:23:02.660 And pray for them. 427 00:23:02.700 --> 00:23:06.880 And so, yeah, we were able to literally go through and just bless the city. 428 00:23:07.200 --> 00:23:09.700 And that's, you know, one of our culture keys is blessed to be a blessing. 429 00:23:09.940 --> 00:23:13.700 And we just believe that if, if we can bless others without even an expectation 430 00:23:13.700 --> 00:23:18.580 of anything in return, that is just like this right here is going to increase 431 00:23:18.580 --> 00:23:18.980 the kingdom. 432 00:23:18.980 --> 00:23:21.280 And it's not even an expectation of like, Hey, we're going to pay for your gas, 433 00:23:21.480 --> 00:23:22.300 come to church. 434 00:23:22.300 --> 00:23:23.280 It's just like, Oh no, no, no. 435 00:23:23.280 --> 00:23:25.880 We're going to pay for your gas because we're believing that God is meeting you 436 00:23:25.880 --> 00:23:26.460 right here. 437 00:23:27.240 --> 00:23:33.060 Because Acts chapter one says that we should wait for the power of God, wait in 438 00:23:33.060 --> 00:23:39.460 Jerusalem, wait, and, and, and, and you will be in wait for the baptism of the 439 00:23:39.460 --> 00:23:40.180 Holy spirit. 440 00:23:40.620 --> 00:23:44.260 And after that, it says, you will be my witness. 441 00:23:44.680 --> 00:23:47.600 So the Holy spirit obviously is a language. 442 00:23:47.780 --> 00:23:51.180 Obviously it is a conversation, but really the Holy spirit is there so that the 443 00:23:51.180 --> 00:23:56.000 people of God could be a witness of him in Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria, and the 444 00:23:56.000 --> 00:23:56.840 ends of ends of Europe. 445 00:23:56.840 --> 00:24:03.040 And I find, I find in so many cases, Matt, that guys have either gone so 446 00:24:03.040 --> 00:24:08.360 social justice that they forgot the gospel or they're of such, you know, 447 00:24:08.500 --> 00:24:09.660 heavenly good. 448 00:24:09.780 --> 00:24:10.840 They're no earthly good. 449 00:24:10.960 --> 00:24:11.240 You know what I'm saying? 450 00:24:11.480 --> 00:24:15.380 And you're pastoring and you're leading a church that's like, Hey, we'll have 451 00:24:15.380 --> 00:24:17.780 full on Holy spirit moments. 452 00:24:17.880 --> 00:24:21.780 We're going to preach the gospel, but we want to have a witness in the street. 453 00:24:22.040 --> 00:24:25.680 Why does the balance of that matter for every leader that's watching? 454 00:24:26.060 --> 00:24:28.760 I mean, obviously the Bible says faith without works is dead. 455 00:24:28.920 --> 00:24:29.160 Yes. 456 00:24:29.320 --> 00:24:35.780 And so to be the hands and feet of Jesus means that there are felt needs 457 00:24:35.780 --> 00:24:38.880 that I believe the Lord is requiring us to do. 458 00:24:38.980 --> 00:24:41.220 It's, it's a privilege that we get an opportunity. 459 00:24:41.380 --> 00:24:45.540 I mean, it's like the Holy spirit is here so that we can be a witness 460 00:24:45.540 --> 00:24:49.760 so that Jesus can say, all right, if you're looking for a witness, if you're 461 00:24:49.760 --> 00:24:56.020 looking for a testimony, I got the person that can stand trial of how good that 462 00:24:56.020 --> 00:24:56.440 I am. 463 00:24:56.660 --> 00:24:56.860 Yes. 464 00:24:56.920 --> 00:24:57.200 Okay. 465 00:24:57.420 --> 00:24:58.560 How good that I am. 466 00:24:58.620 --> 00:25:03.860 Well, I'm saved praise the Lord, but not only am I saved, but man, I got 467 00:25:03.860 --> 00:25:06.500 a job and I can live in abundance. 468 00:25:06.840 --> 00:25:07.160 Yes. 469 00:25:07.300 --> 00:25:11.320 And, and he came so that we might have life and life more abundantly. 470 00:25:11.520 --> 00:25:15.080 If the whole thing was about just going to heaven and I'm excited to go to 471 00:25:15.080 --> 00:25:15.200 heaven. 472 00:25:15.500 --> 00:25:19.040 Then as soon as we gave up, we would drop down. 473 00:25:19.380 --> 00:25:24.120 No, but there's something that has to happen on the earth. 474 00:25:24.280 --> 00:25:24.720 Why? 475 00:25:24.860 --> 00:25:27.980 So that we can be a witness of his goodness, his mercy, his grace. 476 00:25:28.100 --> 00:25:32.880 There's this constant perception in Pentecostalism like I can't wait to get 477 00:25:32.880 --> 00:25:33.240 there. 478 00:25:33.340 --> 00:25:37.480 And all of the Bible's really about heaven getting here, like the new heaven, 479 00:25:37.580 --> 00:25:38.580 the new earth it's here. 480 00:25:39.400 --> 00:25:43.500 We're not, we're not, you know, we're bringing kingdom come. 481 00:25:43.920 --> 00:25:44.020 Yeah. 482 00:25:44.060 --> 00:25:47.060 And, and I mean, I grew up in a church where if you wanted to get 483 00:25:47.060 --> 00:25:52.820 people excited, you start singing when we all get to heaven, what a day of 484 00:25:52.820 --> 00:25:53.240 rejoicing. 485 00:25:53.380 --> 00:25:56.860 I remember, he's about to go. 486 00:25:57.160 --> 00:25:57.260 Yeah. 487 00:25:57.320 --> 00:25:57.540 Okay. 488 00:25:57.700 --> 00:26:02.860 I remember sitting there as a kid thinking to myself, man, like I can't wait to 489 00:26:02.860 --> 00:26:03.320 get him to the bus. 490 00:26:03.920 --> 00:26:07.840 Like, like I want heaven. 491 00:26:07.860 --> 00:26:11.340 I want the goodness of the Lord here in the land of the living while I'm 492 00:26:11.340 --> 00:26:11.580 alive. 493 00:26:11.660 --> 00:26:16.120 And the way my brain works is that I don't think the Lord would ask us 494 00:26:16.120 --> 00:26:18.000 to pray something that was impossible. 495 00:26:18.740 --> 00:26:18.880 Yeah. 496 00:26:20.560 --> 00:26:24.260 So he asked us to pray thy kingdom come. 497 00:26:24.460 --> 00:26:24.680 Yes. 498 00:26:25.320 --> 00:26:27.800 He's asking us to pray something that is possible. 499 00:26:27.940 --> 00:26:28.220 Yes. 500 00:26:28.460 --> 00:26:33.060 I remember years, I remember a few years ago, I was at one of my spiritual 501 00:26:33.060 --> 00:26:37.800 church and, and he was telling me just about something that God was doing 502 00:26:37.800 --> 00:26:38.760 supernatural in his life. 503 00:26:39.520 --> 00:26:44.840 And I was about to say to him, that is unbelievable. 504 00:26:45.640 --> 00:26:51.420 But as I was about to say it, the Lord just took those words and sucked. 505 00:26:51.600 --> 00:26:52.880 And I said, I, and I apologize. 506 00:26:52.940 --> 00:26:53.900 I said, Hey man, I'm sorry. 507 00:26:54.380 --> 00:26:54.900 You know what? 508 00:26:55.280 --> 00:26:59.100 Cause sometimes we throw out these cliches, these colloquialisms. 509 00:26:59.400 --> 00:27:03.440 And I said, you know what, what you just said to me, that's believable. 510 00:27:03.780 --> 00:27:03.880 Right. 511 00:27:04.080 --> 00:27:07.280 And so I believe that God requires us, wants us to pray. 512 00:27:07.520 --> 00:27:13.720 So if there is no violence in heaven, God wants to pray peace on the earth. 513 00:27:13.800 --> 00:27:14.140 Yes. 514 00:27:14.320 --> 00:27:19.340 If there's no sickness in heaven, God wants there to be healing on the earth. 515 00:27:19.520 --> 00:27:21.060 Those are possible prayers. 516 00:27:21.360 --> 00:27:22.800 Those are believable prayers. 517 00:27:23.000 --> 00:27:24.080 They're not just heaven prayers. 518 00:27:24.400 --> 00:27:24.700 Yes. 519 00:27:25.640 --> 00:27:35.520 Um, you know, there's so many examples of sons working with their dads. 520 00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:36.360 Oh boy. 521 00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:37.720 Dad's working with their sons. 522 00:27:38.340 --> 00:27:40.840 And most of it is, is not good. 523 00:27:41.320 --> 00:27:44.280 It's just, it's just not, it's, it's, it's not done well. 524 00:27:45.980 --> 00:27:52.660 And besides working together, what's your relationship like outside of the 525 00:27:52.660 --> 00:27:52.860 church? 526 00:27:52.860 --> 00:27:57.500 What's your relationship like, like when you guys are just, uh, hanging or when 527 00:27:57.500 --> 00:28:00.920 you guys go play basketball and don't invite me, cause nobody believes that I 528 00:28:00.920 --> 00:28:01.640 could actually ball. 529 00:28:01.880 --> 00:28:05.400 Let me just say for the record, Pastor Travis Green, I love you. 530 00:28:05.540 --> 00:28:06.840 I'm balling this weekend. 531 00:28:07.740 --> 00:28:10.640 What is, what is your, what is your guy's relationship, man? 532 00:28:10.640 --> 00:28:11.660 I've gotten to witness it. 533 00:28:11.720 --> 00:28:13.260 We've, we've all traveled to Africa. 534 00:28:13.380 --> 00:28:14.340 We've been to Thailand together. 535 00:28:14.380 --> 00:28:15.920 We've been, we've been overseas together. 536 00:28:16.020 --> 00:28:19.660 Like, like talk to me a little bit about your relationship and then, about your 537 00:28:19.660 --> 00:28:20.680 relationship with your son. 538 00:28:20.860 --> 00:28:25.800 Yeah, no, I tell everybody that my dad is my second best friend. 539 00:28:26.120 --> 00:28:26.300 Okay. 540 00:28:26.520 --> 00:28:33.920 That up until two years ago, well, no, up until five years ago, he, he, without 541 00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:37.940 a shadow of a doubt has been my best friend for my entire life. 542 00:28:37.940 --> 00:28:42.480 I mean, we have videos of when I was one years old, me laying on his 543 00:28:42.480 --> 00:28:46.880 chest, him with a bench press going like this and me with my hands on it, 544 00:28:46.920 --> 00:28:49.000 acting like I was benching with him too. 545 00:28:49.340 --> 00:28:51.440 And to this day, we still do that at home. 546 00:28:52.760 --> 00:28:55.540 You know, we, we still work out with each other. 547 00:28:55.680 --> 00:28:56.340 We still lift. 548 00:28:56.760 --> 00:29:00.760 Um, and then, you know, I, I live with him up until a year ago. 549 00:29:00.980 --> 00:29:05.160 So you work with him, you were living with him and you wasn't sick of him 550 00:29:05.160 --> 00:29:07.100 to the point where you still want to work out with him? 551 00:29:07.160 --> 00:29:08.500 Yeah, no, not at all. 552 00:29:08.540 --> 00:29:14.780 I mean, literally I, I miss living with him because it used to be that I 553 00:29:14.780 --> 00:29:18.180 would just go upstairs and we'd just start watching basketball with each other 554 00:29:18.180 --> 00:29:20.160 or just randomly, Hey, you want to watch a movie? 555 00:29:20.380 --> 00:29:22.540 Then the movie would start watching him. 556 00:29:22.700 --> 00:29:25.280 And then I'm just by myself. 557 00:29:25.500 --> 00:29:31.420 But no, this, this, this guy right here, I could, I love, we went to DC 558 00:29:31.420 --> 00:29:36.220 a couple of weeks ago and it's just like, we literally are almost like the same 559 00:29:36.220 --> 00:29:40.320 person and we can just chill with each other just all day, just either doing 560 00:29:40.320 --> 00:29:42.020 nothing, doing something, doing whatever. 561 00:29:42.540 --> 00:29:44.560 Like I, I can, I'm so grateful. 562 00:29:44.720 --> 00:29:47.960 I get to do every aspect of my life with, with my dad. 563 00:29:48.000 --> 00:29:52.980 And so for my whole life, he has been that guy for me, my, my best 564 00:29:52.980 --> 00:29:57.480 friend in, in high school, you know, it, it, a lot of times I didn't feel 565 00:29:57.480 --> 00:30:03.440 like I had a like actual, like best friend, like that was, that was my age. 566 00:30:03.460 --> 00:30:07.660 Like I was always, and you know, it shows up in kind of like my pastoral 567 00:30:07.660 --> 00:30:08.480 ministry right now. 568 00:30:08.480 --> 00:30:11.240 Like the way that you said that our ministry is so diverse. 569 00:30:11.240 --> 00:30:15.300 It's because I never found like one crowd that I fit in with, right. 570 00:30:15.320 --> 00:30:17.040 It was always, I mean, I did feeder. 571 00:30:17.560 --> 00:30:20.240 I was also a nerd at the same time. 572 00:30:20.340 --> 00:30:20.980 I loved math. 573 00:30:21.020 --> 00:30:21.520 I love science. 574 00:30:21.580 --> 00:30:25.360 I was studying Greek in high school when translating it into the new Testament. 575 00:30:25.620 --> 00:30:29.300 Like, and then I played basketball and I was getting recruited to go play 576 00:30:29.300 --> 00:30:31.260 basketball and college and all these other things. 577 00:30:31.300 --> 00:30:35.920 So there was all these different spaces that I was, you know, fitting into, but 578 00:30:35.920 --> 00:30:39.660 I didn't feel like I had like that one space or that one crowd, that one 579 00:30:39.660 --> 00:30:44.240 people, that one person was always my dad and me and my dad just literally did 580 00:30:44.240 --> 00:30:45.620 every single thing together. 581 00:30:45.860 --> 00:30:49.460 And so I'm, I'm so grateful that me and my dad have that relationship where 582 00:30:49.460 --> 00:30:51.980 he's literally second best friend now. 583 00:30:53.420 --> 00:30:56.700 Oh, my wife is my best friend. 584 00:30:58.580 --> 00:31:04.500 Well, for me, man, it's, it's simple, you know you know, for this son, I 585 00:31:04.500 --> 00:31:04.840 prayed. 586 00:31:06.140 --> 00:31:08.000 So you want to talk about that a little bit? 587 00:31:08.780 --> 00:31:09.120 Yeah, man. 588 00:31:09.160 --> 00:31:11.020 I mean, he's, he's one prayer away, man. 589 00:31:11.700 --> 00:31:13.640 And my wife and I, we got married. 590 00:31:14.540 --> 00:31:19.480 My wife had a, had a daughter and it was an honor for me to step 591 00:31:19.480 --> 00:31:23.860 in to be her, her stepfather, now her father and her dad. 592 00:31:24.520 --> 00:31:28.580 But you know, for the first three, four, five years of our marriage, we were 593 00:31:28.580 --> 00:31:31.560 just unsuccessful in having children. 594 00:31:32.240 --> 00:31:39.200 So when I say that, you know, you're one prayer away, you know, that's, that's 595 00:31:39.200 --> 00:31:42.720 not just something that I read, but it's something that I lived. 596 00:31:43.120 --> 00:31:43.280 Yes. 597 00:31:43.440 --> 00:31:51.080 So I'll never forget the day that my wife, you know, took the pregnancy test 598 00:31:51.080 --> 00:31:54.660 through all the different trials and it will be too long to get into. 599 00:31:54.760 --> 00:31:58.540 I was about to say, to say unsuccessful is an understatement. 600 00:31:58.800 --> 00:31:58.900 Yeah. 601 00:31:59.060 --> 00:32:03.840 I mean, cause we, we tried everything from doctors, the IVF to all of the 602 00:32:03.840 --> 00:32:07.940 treatments and it was, it was really just the power of God, just the power of 603 00:32:07.940 --> 00:32:08.180 prayer. 604 00:32:08.780 --> 00:32:13.900 And when she, I remember the first time she took that test and we just jumped 605 00:32:13.900 --> 00:32:15.920 around the house screaming, crying. 606 00:32:17.000 --> 00:32:24.720 And you know, even before, before we were married though, I prayed for my son. 607 00:32:25.560 --> 00:32:32.480 So you know, from the time he was conceived, the time he was born, born in 608 00:32:32.480 --> 00:32:41.760 a car from that car, from that moment, until now, man, this is, this is my 609 00:32:41.760 --> 00:32:42.100 guy. 610 00:32:42.280 --> 00:32:44.720 This is my son in whom I'm well pleased. 611 00:32:44.960 --> 00:32:51.780 So, and I just determined that one of the greatest gifts that God could give to 612 00:32:51.780 --> 00:32:53.960 us is his presence. 613 00:32:55.120 --> 00:33:00.600 And so I determined from, from the very beginning that the greatest gift I'll 614 00:33:00.600 --> 00:33:03.400 give to my son is my presence. 615 00:33:04.960 --> 00:33:09.240 And so I determined that, and sometimes some parents, I want to talk to 616 00:33:09.240 --> 00:33:14.600 fathers, sometimes like you can try to make what you want. 617 00:33:14.860 --> 00:33:17.040 You're trying to get your son to come up to you. 618 00:33:18.180 --> 00:33:21.840 But as a father, I determined that I would, I would be in his space. 619 00:33:22.060 --> 00:33:28.120 I would, I would be with him from the time he was younger until it's like, 620 00:33:28.140 --> 00:33:30.940 I'm always trying to find how can I relate to, to him? 621 00:33:31.780 --> 00:33:38.040 And you know, what happens is that when you do that well, you, you raise 622 00:33:38.040 --> 00:33:42.360 children that not only honor you, but then they determine, well, how can I 623 00:33:42.360 --> 00:33:44.100 relate to my, how can I relate to my father? 624 00:33:44.820 --> 00:33:48.500 And so I, you know, I had, I had a lot of siblings and I saw 625 00:33:48.500 --> 00:33:54.260 a lot of siblings, you know, my siblings that were always trying to get my dad 626 00:33:54.260 --> 00:33:55.260 to this. 627 00:33:55.300 --> 00:33:58.960 And I was like, well, hey, as a son, like, how can I honor him? 628 00:33:59.000 --> 00:34:00.080 How can I bless him? 629 00:34:00.080 --> 00:34:04.300 It was because, you know, I was doing it as well. 630 00:34:04.640 --> 00:34:10.120 So, and from the very beginning of, of my life and my journey, I kind of 631 00:34:10.120 --> 00:34:17.239 always saw myself as like a bridge between, between, you know, generations. 632 00:34:18.060 --> 00:34:24.460 And so even when I think about him now, it's like, I see him, but like, 633 00:34:24.500 --> 00:34:28.040 and I come here every, every Friday night that I'm not traveling somewhere. 634 00:34:28.380 --> 00:34:34.100 It's like, I'm here praying for him, praying with him, whatever he needs. 635 00:34:34.620 --> 00:34:40.179 And I see, I see 300 to 350, sometimes 400 kids in this room, but really 636 00:34:40.179 --> 00:34:41.440 I see 40,000. 637 00:34:45.909 --> 00:34:46.989 I see 40,000. 638 00:34:48.010 --> 00:34:53.989 I'm laughing because PMKT has a tendency to count how many people are in the 639 00:34:53.989 --> 00:34:54.230 room. 640 00:34:54.630 --> 00:34:55.630 Yes, I do. 641 00:34:56.430 --> 00:34:56.950 Hundreds. 642 00:34:57.510 --> 00:34:58.910 No, no, no, no, no. 643 00:34:59.090 --> 00:35:06.570 The counters off, but it's because he's not looking with naturalized. 644 00:35:06.750 --> 00:35:08.990 He's always looking in the supernatural. 645 00:35:09.210 --> 00:35:15.650 And so I remember even when it was 30 students, he wasn't seeing 30 students, 646 00:35:15.810 --> 00:35:15.930 right? 647 00:35:15.970 --> 00:35:21.330 He was seeing the 300 that we have because, because as a father, you see 648 00:35:21.330 --> 00:35:26.070 potential, you see what God has in front, the same way God looks at us and 649 00:35:26.070 --> 00:35:27.370 doesn't see us as we are. 650 00:35:27.690 --> 00:35:30.930 He sees Matthew for everything he's going to be. 651 00:35:30.990 --> 00:35:35.650 He saw Adam and Matt for all the things and drop all the titles and all 652 00:35:35.650 --> 00:35:35.910 of that. 653 00:35:36.110 --> 00:35:42.510 He just sees us for who we can be and then puts all of heaven behind 654 00:35:42.510 --> 00:35:42.850 us. 655 00:35:43.310 --> 00:35:44.770 Thank you guys both for sharing. 656 00:35:45.370 --> 00:35:46.630 My name is Pastor Adam Derso. 657 00:35:46.650 --> 00:35:51.190 I'm sitting here with Matthew Thompson Sr. and Matthew Thompson, about to be 658 00:35:51.190 --> 00:35:53.570 Pastor Matthew Thompson, Youth Pastor here at Jubilee. 659 00:35:53.990 --> 00:35:55.850 Thank you for joining us at Faithly Stories. 660 00:35:56.250 --> 00:35:56.770 God bless you. 661 00:35:56.830 --> 00:35:57.650 We pray this was a blessing.