We’re Not Done - Pastor Matthew K. Thompson & Pastor Matthew Thompson Jr. | Faithly Podcast

100:00:00.380 --> 00:00:01.800The first day we had 40 registered.200:00:02.200 --> 00:00:02.300Yeah.300:00:02.400 --> 00:00:06.100And then I was like, but if you want to get back, like we can do400:00:06.100 --> 00:00:07.780spontaneous, like whatever you want to do.500:00:07.800 --> 00:00:11.020And on that first night, we ended up baptizing 150 people.600:00:11.200 --> 00:00:13.820And then the next morning, one of my leaders called me.700:00:13.860 --> 00:00:15.920I was like, I heard the Lord say, we're not done.800:00:16.280 --> 00:00:19.140And so I got up on the stage and was like, Hey, we're going to do900:00:19.140 --> 00:00:20.180more baptisms tonight.1000:00:27.460 --> 00:00:29.700This is the Faithly podcast.1100:00:31.040 --> 00:00:34.100Welcome to another episode of Faithly stories podcast.1200:00:34.240 --> 00:00:38.500My name is pastor Adam Durso, and I am sitting with two of my favorite people1300:00:38.500 --> 00:00:43.820on the planet, pastor Matthew Keith Thompson, senior pastor at Jubilee and soon1400:00:43.820 --> 00:00:48.160to be pastor Matthew Thompson, the youth pastor here at Jubilee.1500:00:48.160 --> 00:00:49.220What's good.1600:00:49.980 --> 00:00:55.540Let me just say, this is the early morning edition of faithfully stories1700:00:55.540 --> 00:00:55.920podcast.1800:00:56.120 --> 00:00:59.380I was getting up after a late night at church last night.1900:00:59.640 --> 00:01:03.459I'm thinking to myself, there are only a couple of people in the entire globe2000:01:03.459 --> 00:01:07.440that could get me to film a podcast at seven o'clock in the morning.2100:01:08.100 --> 00:01:11.900And one of them happens to be my brother to my left pastor Matthew Thompson,2200:01:12.060 --> 00:01:12.260man.2300:01:12.680 --> 00:01:15.500Why are we here at this time?2400:01:16.540 --> 00:01:17.640God's not up.2500:01:17.720 --> 00:01:20.180He's still answering prayers from Asia right now.2600:01:20.440 --> 00:01:29.820Well, according to the Bible said you should pray early in the morning before2700:01:29.820 --> 00:01:31.320the sun came up.2800:01:31.480 --> 00:01:36.340So why, but, but there's a prayer culture, a morning prayer culture that you2900:01:36.340 --> 00:01:40.580have established here that your father established before you speak to that.3000:01:40.880 --> 00:01:46.100Yeah, man, I think that, um, it's important that we recognize the importance of3100:01:46.100 --> 00:01:50.400prioritization and that to prioritize the presence of God.3200:01:50.680 --> 00:01:54.440I'm not saying that you can't pray at night.3300:01:54.680 --> 00:01:58.240I'm not saying that you can't pray during the day.3400:01:58.680 --> 00:02:04.200I just feel as though if you're gonna seek the face of God, you should probably3500:02:04.200 --> 00:02:08.900do it before you, you know, have all these other challenges or pressures or3600:02:08.900 --> 00:02:13.140just the complexities of life, just kind of like weighing down on you, but also3700:02:13.140 --> 00:02:19.560just, you know, proof of concept, you know, I have tried to pray kind of like3800:02:19.560 --> 00:02:21.060before I went to bed, you know what I'm saying?3900:02:21.500 --> 00:02:24.360And, uh, I mean, just tried and failed, tried and failed.4000:02:24.360 --> 00:02:28.220Like, you know, I sat, I sat out, I got on my knees, I was about4100:02:28.220 --> 00:02:31.500to go to sleep and I'm like, all right, I'm about to go in.4200:02:31.620 --> 00:02:32.840And then I can't read times.4300:02:32.920 --> 00:02:37.180I just like saw myself laying down, hitting the pillow, waking up saying, Lord,4400:02:37.180 --> 00:02:39.660I'm so sorry, Lord, please forgive me.4500:02:40.000 --> 00:02:42.560But I mean, years ago, I wrote a book called Atmosphere Shift.4600:02:42.640 --> 00:02:47.640And I said that there are prevailing atmospheres, there are prevailing, um,4700:02:47.820 --> 00:02:54.800just cultures and spaces that, that affect your, your ability to really not4800:02:54.800 --> 00:02:57.060necessarily talk to God, but hear his voice.4900:02:57.420 --> 00:03:02.620And so there's something about the stillness in the morning where you can hear5000:03:02.620 --> 00:03:07.800him before, before all the cars are hustling, bustling before your children,5100:03:08.000 --> 00:03:09.380you're getting ready for school, whatever.5200:03:09.540 --> 00:03:15.060You're just like a stomp, a calm stillness where you can hear God, because5300:03:15.060 --> 00:03:18.640prayer is not just me communicating with him, but him being able to, it's not5400:03:18.640 --> 00:03:21.180just a laundry list of needs.5500:03:21.200 --> 00:03:23.420It's God, I want to hear from you a hundred percent.5600:03:23.580 --> 00:03:28.020And for me early in the morning is the best time where I hear the voice5700:03:28.020 --> 00:03:28.260of God.5800:03:28.360 --> 00:03:33.540And you're, you've inherited a prayer culture from your dad because when he was5900:03:33.540 --> 00:03:36.000called to plant in the Northeast, we're up here in Boston.6000:03:36.440 --> 00:03:39.800And this is, you know, this is the place where church planting goes to die.6100:03:40.700 --> 00:03:46.660And yet Jubilee 43 years in is thriving, launching campuses, launching people6200:03:46.660 --> 00:03:47.020out.6300:03:47.200 --> 00:03:50.860I mean, the music that comes out of this house is literally reverberating6400:03:50.860 --> 00:03:51.560around the world.6500:03:52.020 --> 00:03:56.320Speak to the correlation between the prayer culture and the growth of the6600:03:56.320 --> 00:03:57.160church and what's happening.6700:03:57.160 --> 00:03:59.720God be the glory for the great things that he has done.6800:03:59.840 --> 00:04:09.160You know, I'm honored that my dad, the living legend, came to Boston in 1972,6900:04:09.640 --> 00:04:13.380the year I was born, to pastor a small denomination on church.7000:04:13.500 --> 00:04:17.860And after 10 years in 1982, the Lord stepped out in faith to establish New7100:04:17.860 --> 00:04:18.980Covenant, now Jubilee.7200:04:19.860 --> 00:04:25.420And you know, earlier into his ministry, the Lord started to speak to him and7300:04:25.420 --> 00:04:28.740the Lord was saying to him, you don't pray enough.7400:04:29.580 --> 00:04:34.240And he took that to mean, all right, I got to spend some more time in7500:04:34.240 --> 00:04:34.480prayer.7600:04:34.600 --> 00:04:38.980So he moved his prayer time from praying an hour a day to two hours a7700:04:38.980 --> 00:04:41.000day, from two hours a day to three hours a day.7800:04:41.160 --> 00:04:46.000And even after all of that, he still kept on hearing the Lord say, you don't7900:04:46.000 --> 00:04:46.560pray enough.8000:04:47.000 --> 00:04:50.100And he realized that it wasn't just him.8100:04:50.420 --> 00:04:52.440It was his congregation.8200:04:52.440 --> 00:04:53.760It was his family.8300:04:53.940 --> 00:04:59.860It was a generational move to get the body of Christ to unite together in8400:04:59.860 --> 00:05:00.060prayer.8500:05:00.160 --> 00:05:05.320So he launched, you know, early morning prayer services from five to six, six8600:05:05.320 --> 00:05:11.800to seven, everyday God sends for well over now 43 years, we've been praying.8700:05:11.980 --> 00:05:16.340In this building, we've been praying for 33 years, but as a ministry for 438800:05:16.340 --> 00:05:21.840years, Boston, Stoughton, Worcester, with more locations to come, the8900:05:21.840 --> 00:05:25.360foundation pillar of this church is prayer.9000:05:26.340 --> 00:05:29.200And, you know, God just breathed on it.9100:05:29.480 --> 00:05:34.580And it was like, you know, fire and wind and, and the wind of God, and9200:05:34.580 --> 00:05:37.800God just has done something supernatural and it's marvelous in our eyes.9300:05:38.100 --> 00:05:40.680And obviously it's a generational movement.9400:05:41.000 --> 00:05:41.940It's a generational movement.9500:05:42.180 --> 00:05:49.220And, and Matt, Maddie, my, my nephew, uh, I mean, it's generational because the9600:05:49.220 --> 00:05:50.340young people have caught on.9700:05:50.580 --> 00:05:53.420There are more young people up at the front during convention.9800:05:54.100 --> 00:05:57.660I mean, I I've, I've been in 12 hours of prayer since the very first 129900:05:57.660 --> 00:05:58.160hour prayer.10000:05:58.280 --> 00:06:02.020And you get to three, four in the morning and 50% of the room is10100:06:02.020 --> 00:06:02.900under 35.10200:06:03.020 --> 00:06:03.820I mean, it's great.10300:06:04.080 --> 00:06:09.360So what generationally, how has that prayer culture infused in the young10400:06:09.360 --> 00:06:09.520people?10500:06:09.540 --> 00:06:12.960Because all I keep hearing from commentators is, you know, young people just10600:06:12.960 --> 00:06:14.620leaving the church, they out, they gone.10700:06:14.840 --> 00:06:16.720That is not the case here.10800:06:16.860 --> 00:06:17.460It's not the truth.10900:06:17.660 --> 00:06:18.720It's not the truth at all.11000:06:19.040 --> 00:06:23.140And I think, you know, one thing that I, I respect about dad and I love11100:06:23.140 --> 00:06:29.900about dad is he always gives honor to his father for, you know, the legacy that11200:06:29.900 --> 00:06:30.520he's left.11300:06:30.840 --> 00:06:34.220Um, but my dad is a goat too.11400:06:34.560 --> 00:06:39.340And when COVID happened, he immediately just pivoted.11500:06:39.960 --> 00:06:44.360The whole world was shut down and then goes right online, Facebook, Instagram,11600:06:44.520 --> 00:06:45.340YouTube, all of it.11700:06:45.480 --> 00:06:49.240So that even though we couldn't meet in the building and pray, we're able to go11800:06:49.240 --> 00:06:50.220on social media and pray.11900:06:50.500 --> 00:06:54.780And now every single morning we're online and praying and more and more people12000:06:54.780 --> 00:06:56.380are able to come and participate.12100:06:56.660 --> 00:06:58.300And I think, can we just pause it for a second?12200:06:58.360 --> 00:07:01.460Cause I want you to, I want you to talk about the impact on the next12300:07:01.460 --> 00:07:01.900generation.12400:07:01.900 --> 00:07:07.140But last night I was getting ready to do a segment of the service and you12500:07:07.140 --> 00:07:10.800grabbed me in the corner and you knew I would honor your dad because he's my12600:07:10.800 --> 00:07:12.360best friend and I love him.12700:07:12.420 --> 00:07:16.100He's my brother, but you were like, Hey man, like he does such a great job12800:07:16.100 --> 00:07:19.200honoring and rarely do we have an opportunity.12900:07:19.340 --> 00:07:21.960And I've seen this, you know, he does such a great job.13000:07:22.120 --> 00:07:24.820I rarely do we see him honored.13100:07:24.980 --> 00:07:29.320Could you just take a moment and honor your dad for all the, all the, all13200:07:29.320 --> 00:07:33.900the dads and sons that watching what, what that means when you, when you, when13300:07:33.900 --> 00:07:36.840you speak directly to your dad and say, Hey man, you're the go-to.13400:07:37.280 --> 00:07:37.600Oh man.13500:07:37.900 --> 00:07:43.040Like I, last night I had the opportunity to, to pray for some PKs.13600:07:43.280 --> 00:07:46.840And before I prayed for them, you know, my dad was standing right next to me13700:07:46.840 --> 00:07:52.700and I told them a testimony that I have that literally like it, it chokes me13800:07:52.700 --> 00:07:56.080up every time I think about it because there was a day I looked at my13900:07:56.080 --> 00:07:59.940dad and this is when I was like 19 years old dealing with substance abuse,14000:08:00.060 --> 00:08:04.040dealing with pornography, addiction, sex addiction, just all these different14100:08:04.040 --> 00:08:04.380things.14200:08:04.780 --> 00:08:06.860And I told him, I was like, oh dad, I'm always going to be addicted.14300:08:07.300 --> 00:08:09.760And he looked at me and he was like, no son, no, you're not.14400:08:10.040 --> 00:08:11.740He was like, God has something more for you.14500:08:12.020 --> 00:08:16.920And it's, it's the moments like that, that I like really cherish from my pops14600:08:16.920 --> 00:08:20.160that my father has been there for me for everything.14700:08:20.540 --> 00:08:25.180So when I say he's the goat, like he's not just like, he's an amazing pastor.14800:08:25.280 --> 00:08:27.080He's an amazing preacher, amazing communicator.14900:08:27.080 --> 00:08:29.200Like I said, amazing prayer warrior.15000:08:29.460 --> 00:08:34.020He, I know he gives honor to his dad, but like my grandfather, but he shifted15100:08:34.020 --> 00:08:35.260things for real.15200:08:35.760 --> 00:08:40.080And, um, with all of those things, he's, he's been an amazing father.15300:08:40.460 --> 00:08:45.140And, um, I tell people all the time that the reason that I know how amazing15400:08:45.140 --> 00:08:51.560God the father is, is because I've got to see my dad as a father, um,15500:08:51.860 --> 00:08:57.720be an amazing father to me and not just to me, but to my sister, um,15600:08:57.820 --> 00:09:03.540my nieces, my nephew, I mean, they, they took them in and raised them, um, for15700:09:03.540 --> 00:09:04.000a season.15800:09:04.000 --> 00:09:09.320And so I get to see him not just father me, but also father others.15900:09:09.320 --> 00:09:15.320I've, I've watched him almost father, some of my cousins, father people that he16000:09:15.320 --> 00:09:16.100doesn't even know.16100:09:16.120 --> 00:09:16.340Yeah.16200:09:16.360 --> 00:09:19.680And so spiritual sons and daughters all over, all over the place.16300:09:19.680 --> 00:09:24.040And so, um, you know, yesterday, the reason, the reason I came over to you and16400:09:24.040 --> 00:09:27.420says, cause I'm just like, even, I was in a conversation with my mom the other16500:09:27.420 --> 00:09:27.680day.16600:09:27.680 --> 00:09:31.880And it was this one thing that dad has always done is made sure that the16700:09:31.880 --> 00:09:33.580honor has gone to his father.16800:09:34.000 --> 00:09:36.580And I want to make sure that I can do the same thing for him.16900:09:36.760 --> 00:09:40.060And so I knew yesterday I was like, I know I was going to honor him,17000:09:40.080 --> 00:09:43.020but I want to make sure that we, that we get over there.17100:09:43.100 --> 00:09:44.460We, we get them for sure.17200:09:44.660 --> 00:09:44.920You know?17300:09:44.920 --> 00:09:45.100All right.17400:09:45.100 --> 00:09:46.960So we're going to let him, you know, get his stuff together.17500:09:47.340 --> 00:09:49.100You're crying too on this side, man.17600:09:49.600 --> 00:09:50.020I'm mad.17700:09:50.140 --> 00:09:51.440I might just have to do a model.17800:09:53.220 --> 00:09:56.120He said he was a weeping prophet.17900:09:56.360 --> 00:10:03.020I think, I think the key thing that in this moment is that it's like from18000:10:03.020 --> 00:10:05.820one generation to the next generation.18100:10:05.820 --> 00:10:11.580And it's like the beautiful thing I love about my dad and his ministry is that18200:10:11.580 --> 00:10:13.920his vision was so expansive.18300:10:14.360 --> 00:10:21.020It gave room for generations to say, Hey, like, I think I can pick up that18400:10:21.020 --> 00:10:21.440mantle.18500:10:21.700 --> 00:10:22.020You know what I'm saying?18600:10:22.120 --> 00:10:24.720And it's like, you could build upon the foundation.18700:10:24.980 --> 00:10:30.240It's like, like his shoulders, I'm standing on his shoulders and his ceiling18800:10:30.240 --> 00:10:31.460became my floor.18900:10:32.020 --> 00:10:38.400And my prayer is that, and I mean, and tonight, obviously tonight, man, my, my19000:10:38.400 --> 00:10:43.300son is going to be ordained right where we are seated right now.19100:10:44.420 --> 00:10:51.860And he will be now a fifth generation preacher and pastor and legacy builder19200:10:51.860 --> 00:10:59.160and yielder and his great, great, great grandmother, my great, great19300:10:59.160 --> 00:11:08.240grandmother prayed that, that God would bless his, her daughter's19400:11:08.240 --> 00:11:11.560children's children's children's children.19500:11:12.140 --> 00:11:16.680And so mother Staten is, is in heaven right now.19600:11:16.820 --> 00:11:21.120She's with the cloud of witnesses right now watching this prophetic moment.19700:11:21.360 --> 00:11:24.120But I had something to build upon.19800:11:24.280 --> 00:11:29.580So it's like when COVID happened, but even before then, it's like, I realized19900:11:29.580 --> 00:11:35.380that prayer had to be transferable because prayer is generational.20000:11:35.820 --> 00:11:35.920Yes.20100:11:36.280 --> 00:11:39.500Prayer is transformational, but prayer is transferable.20200:11:39.800 --> 00:11:39.980Yes.20300:11:40.120 --> 00:11:44.960So it had to be a transferable thing where generations could say, okay, I can,20400:11:45.080 --> 00:11:45.920I can grab this.20500:11:46.000 --> 00:11:47.080I can catch on to this.20600:11:47.160 --> 00:11:51.080So whether that was 24 hours of prayer, whether that 12 hours of prayer, about20700:11:51.080 --> 00:11:56.640midnight prayer services, where it was about this, even shifting how we even20800:11:56.640 --> 00:12:03.000like, like packaged prayer, because I mean, we grew up in a day where all night20900:12:03.000 --> 00:12:09.400of prayer was literally like one old guy sitting in the room, literally just21000:12:09.400 --> 00:12:11.500kind of like, Oh God.21100:12:11.660 --> 00:12:15.520And I remember being in those types of prayer services, sitting in the back of21200:12:15.520 --> 00:12:19.780a room in the basement of a church, thinking to myself, this is not21300:12:19.780 --> 00:12:20.440transferable.21400:12:20.940 --> 00:12:25.480And so I'm believing even, even now, son, I'm believing I'm probably, I'm21500:12:25.480 --> 00:12:33.280believing that whatever, whatever my great grandmother prayed, whatever my21600:12:33.280 --> 00:12:36.660grandmother has prayed, whatever my father has prayed.21700:12:36.800 --> 00:12:41.900Now, whatever your father has prayed that man, like, like there's nothing that21800:12:41.900 --> 00:12:45.380is that there are some things that are secret, but there are some things like21900:12:45.380 --> 00:12:47.720everything can, it's transferable.22000:12:47.920 --> 00:12:53.440Like now you can hear from God for your generation and, and shift something and22100:12:53.440 --> 00:12:59.000establish something that'll take our prayer ministry for generations to a whole22200:12:59.000 --> 00:12:59.460nother place.22300:12:59.460 --> 00:13:00.160Just like I did.22400:13:00.260 --> 00:13:06.280You know, I oftentimes quote the idea that whatever you don't celebrate,22500:13:06.360 --> 00:13:07.480eventually you forfeit.22600:13:08.140 --> 00:13:11.760And in many churches, they don't celebrate the next generation, or there's this22700:13:11.760 --> 00:13:13.220collision of old and young.22800:13:13.440 --> 00:13:14.740I don't see that here.22900:13:15.280 --> 00:13:19.240I see a celebration of younger people coming in the door.23000:13:19.740 --> 00:13:20.700I see a celebration.23100:13:20.900 --> 00:13:24.700The diversity amongst your youth group is crazy.23200:13:24.960 --> 00:13:28.860It is just, I mean, speak to what God is stirring and doing here in the23300:13:28.860 --> 00:13:30.800youth ministry, young adult ministry at Jubilee.23400:13:31.000 --> 00:13:31.460Yeah, for sure.23500:13:31.540 --> 00:13:37.680I mean, for the past five years, I've been with the youth ministry, just kind23600:13:37.680 --> 00:13:38.680of spearheading that.23700:13:38.840 --> 00:13:42.140And then over the past two years, I've been doing both the youth and young23800:13:42.140 --> 00:13:42.700adults ministry.23900:13:43.380 --> 00:13:45.260And me and my wife got married two years ago.24000:13:45.320 --> 00:13:48.000And so now we, we lead those ministries together.24100:13:48.240 --> 00:13:51.860And you know, when, when I first took over what citywide, which is our youth24200:13:51.860 --> 00:13:54.620ministry, we went from 30 students to 300.24300:13:55.480 --> 00:13:58.520And then now in terms of our college.24400:13:58.740 --> 00:14:00.440From 30 to 300 to 3,000.24500:14:00.580 --> 00:14:01.040Yes, yes.24600:14:01.380 --> 00:14:05.900Well, we got, we got to talk about bone blue for a second, because we're going24700:14:05.900 --> 00:14:06.300to get there.24800:14:06.420 --> 00:14:08.340Cause that was just some next level.24900:14:08.840 --> 00:14:09.240Okay.25000:14:09.240 --> 00:14:10.040So for sure.25100:14:11.120 --> 00:14:14.220But yeah, when, when we took over, you know, it's so interesting, I was25200:14:14.220 --> 00:14:18.100thinking about this on the way here that sometimes I feel like, you know, we,25300:14:18.180 --> 00:14:21.800we talk about a theme of the year that the Lord kind of like reveals something25400:14:21.800 --> 00:14:24.700to pops and it's like, that's what the theme is.25500:14:24.900 --> 00:14:25.040Yes.25600:14:25.100 --> 00:14:29.460And I feel like sometimes with those themes, it's like, there are moments where25700:14:29.460 --> 00:14:33.620we can hear something from the Lord and we go out and we go after it.25800:14:33.660 --> 00:14:35.860And we're like, this is what God is getting ready to do.25900:14:36.000 --> 00:14:39.220And then sometimes I think God reveals it to you that when you declare it,26000:14:39.220 --> 00:14:40.060it'll begin to happen.26100:14:40.720 --> 00:14:44.820And so in this year, especially when it comes to, you know, our theme is this26200:14:44.820 --> 00:14:45.740is the year of revival.26300:14:45.920 --> 00:14:50.440What I've noticed is it's like, that has been not just a vision, but a26400:14:50.440 --> 00:14:50.920declaration.26500:14:51.300 --> 00:14:54.460And so now there is revival that is happening.26600:14:54.560 --> 00:14:59.340And I've seen all over social media that there's people that are in arguments26700:14:59.340 --> 00:15:03.620over like what revival is like, Oh, revival isn't a thousand people in a26800:15:03.620 --> 00:15:07.920sanctuary, just like, you know, getting hype, but it's like, well, let's look26900:15:07.920 --> 00:15:09.460at the definition of revival.27000:15:10.100 --> 00:15:14.260Definition of revival is that there is an increase in popularity.27100:15:14.580 --> 00:15:19.060And it's like, that's what my generation is experiencing right now, that there27200:15:19.060 --> 00:15:25.840is an increase in popularity of not, I do want to pray for 12 hours.27300:15:25.960 --> 00:15:27.200I do want to worship.27400:15:27.440 --> 00:15:28.480I do want to hear a word.27500:15:28.580 --> 00:15:30.920I do want to be in the building and celebrate.27600:15:31.120 --> 00:15:35.540And it's like, you know, what what's been happening over the last five years27700:15:35.540 --> 00:15:40.960within our church is there has been a revival in the next generation that has27800:15:40.960 --> 00:15:42.280increased the popularity.27900:15:42.620 --> 00:15:47.180Like it's almost like being Christian is cool now, which there's a, there's a28000:15:47.180 --> 00:15:51.540balance to that because if you think it's all cool, then you neglect the28100:15:51.540 --> 00:15:51.960suffering.28200:15:52.060 --> 00:15:52.240Yeah.28300:15:52.260 --> 00:15:56.880But it's like, at the same time, Hey, let's let, let's get them thinking.28400:15:56.900 --> 00:15:57.720It's cool thinking.28500:15:57.820 --> 00:15:58.320It's awesome.28600:15:58.460 --> 00:16:01.080So that it's easier for them to go through that.28700:16:01.080 --> 00:16:03.260My youth ministry in the nineties, I say it all the time.28800:16:03.420 --> 00:16:05.860Like the kid that was in church was uncool.28900:16:05.960 --> 00:16:09.900And then all of a sudden it turned and now peer pressure was reversed because29000:16:09.900 --> 00:16:10.960peer pressure can be neutral.29100:16:11.300 --> 00:16:13.560Your pressure could be negative or it can be positive.29200:16:13.900 --> 00:16:16.980And now all of a sudden it was like, well, if you're not staying, if you're29300:16:16.980 --> 00:16:21.040not hanging, if you're not really on fire for God that, you know, like you felt29400:16:21.040 --> 00:16:22.340like the outsider somehow.29500:16:22.600 --> 00:16:29.020And so code blue revival is a tangible evidence of the revival that is29600:16:29.020 --> 00:16:29.880happening at Jubilee.29700:16:30.040 --> 00:16:30.920It's not theoretical.29800:16:31.500 --> 00:16:33.440It's not like I can just give you a bunch of principles.29900:16:34.040 --> 00:16:35.280What happened in August?30000:16:35.600 --> 00:16:41.380Wait, wait, before you go there last year, one of the most incredible moments30100:16:41.380 --> 00:16:44.700before we go to what happened this year, last year, the most incredible moments30200:16:44.700 --> 00:16:51.020during cold blue revival last year, where the Lord spoke to my son to put out30300:16:51.020 --> 00:16:57.780this, this water portico with two, uh, baptistry pools outside.30400:16:58.040 --> 00:17:03.460They had like close to like 40 or 50 kids that were registered to get baptized.30500:17:03.859 --> 00:17:10.359Uh, but in the course of two days, over 200 and 50 baptisms outside, outside,30600:17:10.920 --> 00:17:11.700but it was the first time.30700:17:11.859 --> 00:17:13.380So it was very interesting.30800:17:13.380 --> 00:17:16.020So we had a team of about, you know, I have a team of like 4030900:17:16.020 --> 00:17:20.280leaders last year when we were planning code blue and the theme was troubled31000:17:20.280 --> 00:17:20.700waters.31100:17:21.079 --> 00:17:23.619And so we created the pool of Bethesda outside.31200:17:23.960 --> 00:17:30.520And so I remember like one day I was just like praying or just something.31300:17:30.620 --> 00:17:31.020I don't know.31400:17:31.140 --> 00:17:32.680The God, God just revealed it to me.31500:17:32.720 --> 00:17:34.980It was just like, put the baptism pools outside.31600:17:35.180 --> 00:17:36.480We had never done that as a church.31700:17:36.560 --> 00:17:39.400Normally we do it right on the, on the stage so that we're all in the31800:17:39.400 --> 00:17:40.380sanctuary we can celebrate.31900:17:40.460 --> 00:17:41.940And I remember bringing it to the team.32000:17:42.100 --> 00:17:44.700We're like, Hey fam, I think let's do this outside.32100:17:45.180 --> 00:17:48.100Like, and everyone looked at me like I was crazy.32200:17:48.240 --> 00:17:51.100They were like, they were like, well, how are we going to get it on video?32300:17:51.180 --> 00:17:52.220How are we going to live stream it?32400:17:52.260 --> 00:17:55.920How are we going to, and I'm like, cares, like, let's just, let's put it32500:17:55.920 --> 00:17:56.340outside.32600:17:56.480 --> 00:18:01.100We'll put it literally in our pool of Bethesda and let's just, let's baptize32700:18:01.100 --> 00:18:01.720people out there.32800:18:01.940 --> 00:18:06.120And I'm like, so yeah, over the, over the course of, it was literally maybe 3632900:18:06.120 --> 00:18:08.700hours baptized over, over 250 people.33000:18:09.160 --> 00:18:13.300And but the first day, the first day we had 40 registered and then I was33100:18:13.300 --> 00:18:17.440like, but if you want to get back, like we can do spontaneous, like whatever33200:18:17.440 --> 00:18:17.880you want to do.33300:18:17.940 --> 00:18:21.100And on that first night we ended up baptizing 150 people.33400:18:21.240 --> 00:18:23.940And then the next morning, one of my leaders called me.33500:18:23.980 --> 00:18:26.000I was like, I heard the Lord say, we're not done.33600:18:26.460 --> 00:18:29.260And so I got up on the stage and was like, Hey, we're going to do33700:18:29.260 --> 00:18:31.120more baptisms tonight if you're down.33800:18:31.420 --> 00:18:32.460But I know exactly what you're about.33900:18:32.460 --> 00:18:36.980But on the first day that the pool of Bethesda was set up with two beverage34000:18:36.980 --> 00:18:39.840pools, it was, it was before the services started.34100:18:40.300 --> 00:18:42.540We were outside and we haven't recorded.34200:18:42.660 --> 00:18:47.740We were outside and we're just, we just finished a staff meeting and we were34300:18:47.740 --> 00:18:49.920just standing out there, just looking at the pools.34400:18:50.900 --> 00:18:58.040And I mean, the sky was clear, sunny everywhere, beautiful day.34500:18:58.320 --> 00:19:02.000But like out of nowhere, there was like this mist.34600:19:02.380 --> 00:19:06.720It's just, it's just in the rain falling right over the back.34700:19:07.520 --> 00:19:11.740And then that night while they were baptized, it happened again.34800:19:12.500 --> 00:19:18.940The entire, it was dark midnight, you know, everywhere was dry and it wasn't a34900:19:18.940 --> 00:19:19.320heavy rain.35000:19:19.400 --> 00:19:21.200It was just like this mist.35100:19:21.540 --> 00:19:25.180It was just kind of like, like the glory of the Lord was just kind of35200:19:25.180 --> 00:19:25.540resting.35300:19:25.820 --> 00:19:30.500And, and, and, and, you know, when I knew that this year, the theme was going35400:19:30.500 --> 00:19:35.200to be revival, the Lord said, I agree with what my son is saying about, about35500:19:35.200 --> 00:19:37.780the glory of the Lord gaining popularity.35600:19:38.060 --> 00:19:44.020But it's like, we grew up thinking that revival was an event or revival was a35700:19:44.020 --> 00:19:47.260group of services on revival night services.35800:19:47.640 --> 00:19:50.360I mean, we, we grew up in a day where it's like, you know, our parents35900:19:50.360 --> 00:19:53.560said, there's revival and you go somewhere and people will be rolling around.36000:19:54.080 --> 00:19:55.640People set up tents and it was a tent revival.36100:19:56.220 --> 00:20:01.780But, but the Lord said to me that revival is not a destination, but that it's36200:20:01.780 --> 00:20:02.280a posture.36300:20:02.680 --> 00:20:09.600And so what has happened is that there's a posture for prayer and the presence36400:20:09.600 --> 00:20:15.860and, and the power of God that literally has rested, rested here.36500:20:16.000 --> 00:20:22.040And I, I think this year during cold blue was another kind of evidence of just,36600:20:22.560 --> 00:20:25.400I mean, I mean, I heard cold blue this year.36700:20:26.100 --> 00:20:30.120And of course your dad and I talked multiple times a week and he was like,36800:20:30.380 --> 00:20:35.500Adam, Adam, we broke every attendance record for any conference or anything36900:20:35.500 --> 00:20:36.620we've ever done.37000:20:37.960 --> 00:20:39.060Youth and young adults.37100:20:39.140 --> 00:20:39.940Youth and young adults.37200:20:40.040 --> 00:20:41.820Under what age do you think for the most part?37300:20:41.940 --> 00:20:42.640Under 30.37400:20:42.840 --> 00:20:43.340Under 30.37500:20:43.440 --> 00:20:44.240So 90 plus.37600:20:44.540 --> 00:20:45.280Maybe even younger than that.37700:20:45.380 --> 00:20:49.980I mean, I mean, I'm, I'm, I'm thinking maybe it was probably like 10 to 2037800:20:49.980 --> 00:20:56.260% over 30, but I'd say 80% of this room and the lower level and37900:20:56.260 --> 00:20:59.820people standing outside all the place were, were.38000:20:59.900 --> 00:21:05.300It was, it was the highest attendance that, that I've seen for our, our church38100:21:05.300 --> 00:21:06.440just in general.38200:21:06.620 --> 00:21:14.260I mean, by the first day, the first day, we maybe five hours before service hit38300:21:14.260 --> 00:21:15.580over a thousand registrations.38400:21:15.980 --> 00:21:19.120That was the most we had ever seen before.38500:21:19.460 --> 00:21:19.880Registrations.38600:21:20.060 --> 00:21:20.200Yeah.38700:21:20.320 --> 00:21:21.420Literally just registrations.38800:21:21.640 --> 00:21:26.720And then on, on Friday night for the first time in cold blue history, we did38900:21:26.720 --> 00:21:27.52012 hours of prayer.39000:21:28.020 --> 00:21:33.640And so, you know, as far as a prayer room started off like, oh no, 1200.39100:21:34.800 --> 00:21:36.580Probably more than that, 15 downstairs.39200:21:36.720 --> 00:21:37.220It was crazy.39300:21:37.500 --> 00:21:37.880It was packed.39400:21:38.100 --> 00:21:42.800And then by the, by the time we hit seven in the morning, youth and young39500:21:42.800 --> 00:21:44.600adults, 600 people.39600:21:44.760 --> 00:21:45.120Yeah.39700:21:46.440 --> 00:21:47.960Just at the altar.39800:21:48.260 --> 00:21:49.520I mean, absolutely insane.39900:21:49.680 --> 00:21:55.440Part of code blue is also taking over the city, random acts of kindness.40000:21:56.400 --> 00:22:00.560And, you know, I, I believe acts two doesn't end in the upper room for a40100:22:00.560 --> 00:22:00.760reason.40200:22:00.940 --> 00:22:01.120Wow.40300:22:01.240 --> 00:22:02.580Too many Pentecostals.40400:22:03.300 --> 00:22:07.720Acts two, the Holy spirit is poured out and we've got tongues of fire and we're40500:22:07.720 --> 00:22:08.520speaking other languages.40600:22:08.620 --> 00:22:09.220That's great.40700:22:09.440 --> 00:22:14.640But it spills out into the street because when God is demonstrating something,40800:22:14.760 --> 00:22:16.340it's not to be contained within four walls.40900:22:16.700 --> 00:22:19.160It's supposed to, what was happening in Boston?41000:22:19.260 --> 00:22:23.100And I was seeing all types of clips on social, like y'all were randomly paying41100:22:23.100 --> 00:22:24.780for people's gas and groceries.41200:22:25.300 --> 00:22:26.640And what was that like?41300:22:26.960 --> 00:22:31.080I mean, we do Jubilee in the city every year, but it was actually dad this41400:22:31.080 --> 00:22:33.240year that was like, we're going to do Jubilee in the city.41500:22:33.700 --> 00:22:39.320Like monthly, like once the summer hit, he was like, we're going to do it once41600:22:39.320 --> 00:22:39.700a month.41700:22:39.880 --> 00:22:44.180And so we would go in Boston up and down blue Hill Ave and, you know,41800:22:44.220 --> 00:22:48.500clean stores, clean streets, pay for people's gas, pay for people's groceries.41900:22:49.120 --> 00:22:49.980And then pray.42000:22:50.140 --> 00:22:54.380We'd set up, you know, prayer tables and different things and just literally42100:22:54.380 --> 00:22:55.760just, just, just pray for people.42200:22:55.860 --> 00:22:58.000We had people with shirts that said need prayer.42300:22:58.620 --> 00:22:59.780Someone would walk up.42400:23:00.300 --> 00:23:01.020I need prayer.42500:23:01.120 --> 00:23:01.340Yeah.42600:23:01.680 --> 00:23:02.660And pray for them.42700:23:02.700 --> 00:23:06.880And so, yeah, we were able to literally go through and just bless the city.42800:23:07.200 --> 00:23:09.700And that's, you know, one of our culture keys is blessed to be a blessing.42900:23:09.940 --> 00:23:13.700And we just believe that if, if we can bless others without even an expectation43000:23:13.700 --> 00:23:18.580of anything in return, that is just like this right here is going to increase43100:23:18.580 --> 00:23:18.980the kingdom.43200:23:18.980 --> 00:23:21.280And it's not even an expectation of like, Hey, we're going to pay for your gas,43300:23:21.480 --> 00:23:22.300come to church.43400:23:22.300 --> 00:23:23.280It's just like, Oh no, no, no.43500:23:23.280 --> 00:23:25.880We're going to pay for your gas because we're believing that God is meeting you43600:23:25.880 --> 00:23:26.460right here.43700:23:27.240 --> 00:23:33.060Because Acts chapter one says that we should wait for the power of God, wait in43800:23:33.060 --> 00:23:39.460Jerusalem, wait, and, and, and, and you will be in wait for the baptism of the43900:23:39.460 --> 00:23:40.180Holy spirit.44000:23:40.620 --> 00:23:44.260And after that, it says, you will be my witness.44100:23:44.680 --> 00:23:47.600So the Holy spirit obviously is a language.44200:23:47.780 --> 00:23:51.180Obviously it is a conversation, but really the Holy spirit is there so that the44300:23:51.180 --> 00:23:56.000people of God could be a witness of him in Jerusalem, Judea, Samaria, and the44400:23:56.000 --> 00:23:56.840ends of ends of Europe.44500:23:56.840 --> 00:24:03.040And I find, I find in so many cases, Matt, that guys have either gone so44600:24:03.040 --> 00:24:08.360social justice that they forgot the gospel or they're of such, you know,44700:24:08.500 --> 00:24:09.660heavenly good.44800:24:09.780 --> 00:24:10.840They're no earthly good.44900:24:10.960 --> 00:24:11.240You know what I'm saying?45000:24:11.480 --> 00:24:15.380And you're pastoring and you're leading a church that's like, Hey, we'll have45100:24:15.380 --> 00:24:17.780full on Holy spirit moments.45200:24:17.880 --> 00:24:21.780We're going to preach the gospel, but we want to have a witness in the street.45300:24:22.040 --> 00:24:25.680Why does the balance of that matter for every leader that's watching?45400:24:26.060 --> 00:24:28.760I mean, obviously the Bible says faith without works is dead.45500:24:28.920 --> 00:24:29.160Yes.45600:24:29.320 --> 00:24:35.780And so to be the hands and feet of Jesus means that there are felt needs45700:24:35.780 --> 00:24:38.880that I believe the Lord is requiring us to do.45800:24:38.980 --> 00:24:41.220It's, it's a privilege that we get an opportunity.45900:24:41.380 --> 00:24:45.540I mean, it's like the Holy spirit is here so that we can be a witness46000:24:45.540 --> 00:24:49.760so that Jesus can say, all right, if you're looking for a witness, if you're46100:24:49.760 --> 00:24:56.020looking for a testimony, I got the person that can stand trial of how good that46200:24:56.020 --> 00:24:56.440I am.46300:24:56.660 --> 00:24:56.860Yes.46400:24:56.920 --> 00:24:57.200Okay.46500:24:57.420 --> 00:24:58.560How good that I am.46600:24:58.620 --> 00:25:03.860Well, I'm saved praise the Lord, but not only am I saved, but man, I got46700:25:03.860 --> 00:25:06.500a job and I can live in abundance.46800:25:06.840 --> 00:25:07.160Yes.46900:25:07.300 --> 00:25:11.320And, and he came so that we might have life and life more abundantly.47000:25:11.520 --> 00:25:15.080If the whole thing was about just going to heaven and I'm excited to go to47100:25:15.080 --> 00:25:15.200heaven.47200:25:15.500 --> 00:25:19.040Then as soon as we gave up, we would drop down.47300:25:19.380 --> 00:25:24.120No, but there's something that has to happen on the earth.47400:25:24.280 --> 00:25:24.720Why?47500:25:24.860 --> 00:25:27.980So that we can be a witness of his goodness, his mercy, his grace.47600:25:28.100 --> 00:25:32.880There's this constant perception in Pentecostalism like I can't wait to get47700:25:32.880 --> 00:25:33.240there.47800:25:33.340 --> 00:25:37.480And all of the Bible's really about heaven getting here, like the new heaven,47900:25:37.580 --> 00:25:38.580the new earth it's here.48000:25:39.400 --> 00:25:43.500We're not, we're not, you know, we're bringing kingdom come.48100:25:43.920 --> 00:25:44.020Yeah.48200:25:44.060 --> 00:25:47.060And, and I mean, I grew up in a church where if you wanted to get48300:25:47.060 --> 00:25:52.820people excited, you start singing when we all get to heaven, what a day of48400:25:52.820 --> 00:25:53.240rejoicing.48500:25:53.380 --> 00:25:56.860I remember, he's about to go.48600:25:57.160 --> 00:25:57.260Yeah.48700:25:57.320 --> 00:25:57.540Okay.48800:25:57.700 --> 00:26:02.860I remember sitting there as a kid thinking to myself, man, like I can't wait to48900:26:02.860 --> 00:26:03.320get him to the bus.49000:26:03.920 --> 00:26:07.840Like, like I want heaven.49100:26:07.860 --> 00:26:11.340I want the goodness of the Lord here in the land of the living while I'm49200:26:11.340 --> 00:26:11.580alive.49300:26:11.660 --> 00:26:16.120And the way my brain works is that I don't think the Lord would ask us49400:26:16.120 --> 00:26:18.000to pray something that was impossible.49500:26:18.740 --> 00:26:18.880Yeah.49600:26:20.560 --> 00:26:24.260So he asked us to pray thy kingdom come.49700:26:24.460 --> 00:26:24.680Yes.49800:26:25.320 --> 00:26:27.800He's asking us to pray something that is possible.49900:26:27.940 --> 00:26:28.220Yes.50000:26:28.460 --> 00:26:33.060I remember years, I remember a few years ago, I was at one of my spiritual50100:26:33.060 --> 00:26:37.800church and, and he was telling me just about something that God was doing50200:26:37.800 --> 00:26:38.760supernatural in his life.50300:26:39.520 --> 00:26:44.840And I was about to say to him, that is unbelievable.50400:26:45.640 --> 00:26:51.420But as I was about to say it, the Lord just took those words and sucked.50500:26:51.600 --> 00:26:52.880And I said, I, and I apologize.50600:26:52.940 --> 00:26:53.900I said, Hey man, I'm sorry.50700:26:54.380 --> 00:26:54.900You know what?50800:26:55.280 --> 00:26:59.100Cause sometimes we throw out these cliches, these colloquialisms.50900:26:59.400 --> 00:27:03.440And I said, you know what, what you just said to me, that's believable.51000:27:03.780 --> 00:27:03.880Right.51100:27:04.080 --> 00:27:07.280And so I believe that God requires us, wants us to pray.51200:27:07.520 --> 00:27:13.720So if there is no violence in heaven, God wants to pray peace on the earth.51300:27:13.800 --> 00:27:14.140Yes.51400:27:14.320 --> 00:27:19.340If there's no sickness in heaven, God wants there to be healing on the earth.51500:27:19.520 --> 00:27:21.060Those are possible prayers.51600:27:21.360 --> 00:27:22.800Those are believable prayers.51700:27:23.000 --> 00:27:24.080They're not just heaven prayers.51800:27:24.400 --> 00:27:24.700Yes.51900:27:25.640 --> 00:27:35.520Um, you know, there's so many examples of sons working with their dads.52000:27:35.920 --> 00:27:36.360Oh boy.52100:27:36.480 --> 00:27:37.720Dad's working with their sons.52200:27:38.340 --> 00:27:40.840And most of it is, is not good.52300:27:41.320 --> 00:27:44.280It's just, it's just not, it's, it's, it's not done well.52400:27:45.980 --> 00:27:52.660And besides working together, what's your relationship like outside of the52500:27:52.660 --> 00:27:52.860church?52600:27:52.860 --> 00:27:57.500What's your relationship like, like when you guys are just, uh, hanging or when52700:27:57.500 --> 00:28:00.920you guys go play basketball and don't invite me, cause nobody believes that I52800:28:00.920 --> 00:28:01.640could actually ball.52900:28:01.880 --> 00:28:05.400Let me just say for the record, Pastor Travis Green, I love you.53000:28:05.540 --> 00:28:06.840I'm balling this weekend.53100:28:07.740 --> 00:28:10.640What is, what is your, what is your guy's relationship, man?53200:28:10.640 --> 00:28:11.660I've gotten to witness it.53300:28:11.720 --> 00:28:13.260We've, we've all traveled to Africa.53400:28:13.380 --> 00:28:14.340We've been to Thailand together.53500:28:14.380 --> 00:28:15.920We've been, we've been overseas together.53600:28:16.020 --> 00:28:19.660Like, like talk to me a little bit about your relationship and then, about your53700:28:19.660 --> 00:28:20.680relationship with your son.53800:28:20.860 --> 00:28:25.800Yeah, no, I tell everybody that my dad is my second best friend.53900:28:26.120 --> 00:28:26.300Okay.54000:28:26.520 --> 00:28:33.920That up until two years ago, well, no, up until five years ago, he, he, without54100:28:33.920 --> 00:28:37.940a shadow of a doubt has been my best friend for my entire life.54200:28:37.940 --> 00:28:42.480I mean, we have videos of when I was one years old, me laying on his54300:28:42.480 --> 00:28:46.880chest, him with a bench press going like this and me with my hands on it,54400:28:46.920 --> 00:28:49.000acting like I was benching with him too.54500:28:49.340 --> 00:28:51.440And to this day, we still do that at home.54600:28:52.760 --> 00:28:55.540You know, we, we still work out with each other.54700:28:55.680 --> 00:28:56.340We still lift.54800:28:56.760 --> 00:29:00.760Um, and then, you know, I, I live with him up until a year ago.54900:29:00.980 --> 00:29:05.160So you work with him, you were living with him and you wasn't sick of him55000:29:05.160 --> 00:29:07.100to the point where you still want to work out with him?55100:29:07.160 --> 00:29:08.500Yeah, no, not at all.55200:29:08.540 --> 00:29:14.780I mean, literally I, I miss living with him because it used to be that I55300:29:14.780 --> 00:29:18.180would just go upstairs and we'd just start watching basketball with each other55400:29:18.180 --> 00:29:20.160or just randomly, Hey, you want to watch a movie?55500:29:20.380 --> 00:29:22.540Then the movie would start watching him.55600:29:22.700 --> 00:29:25.280And then I'm just by myself.55700:29:25.500 --> 00:29:31.420But no, this, this, this guy right here, I could, I love, we went to DC55800:29:31.420 --> 00:29:36.220a couple of weeks ago and it's just like, we literally are almost like the same55900:29:36.220 --> 00:29:40.320person and we can just chill with each other just all day, just either doing56000:29:40.320 --> 00:29:42.020nothing, doing something, doing whatever.56100:29:42.540 --> 00:29:44.560Like I, I can, I'm so grateful.56200:29:44.720 --> 00:29:47.960I get to do every aspect of my life with, with my dad.56300:29:48.000 --> 00:29:52.980And so for my whole life, he has been that guy for me, my, my best56400:29:52.980 --> 00:29:57.480friend in, in high school, you know, it, it, a lot of times I didn't feel56500:29:57.480 --> 00:30:03.440like I had a like actual, like best friend, like that was, that was my age.56600:30:03.460 --> 00:30:07.660Like I was always, and you know, it shows up in kind of like my pastoral56700:30:07.660 --> 00:30:08.480ministry right now.56800:30:08.480 --> 00:30:11.240Like the way that you said that our ministry is so diverse.56900:30:11.240 --> 00:30:15.300It's because I never found like one crowd that I fit in with, right.57000:30:15.320 --> 00:30:17.040It was always, I mean, I did feeder.57100:30:17.560 --> 00:30:20.240I was also a nerd at the same time.57200:30:20.340 --> 00:30:20.980I loved math.57300:30:21.020 --> 00:30:21.520I love science.57400:30:21.580 --> 00:30:25.360I was studying Greek in high school when translating it into the new Testament.57500:30:25.620 --> 00:30:29.300Like, and then I played basketball and I was getting recruited to go play57600:30:29.300 --> 00:30:31.260basketball and college and all these other things.57700:30:31.300 --> 00:30:35.920So there was all these different spaces that I was, you know, fitting into, but57800:30:35.920 --> 00:30:39.660I didn't feel like I had like that one space or that one crowd, that one57900:30:39.660 --> 00:30:44.240people, that one person was always my dad and me and my dad just literally did58000:30:44.240 --> 00:30:45.620every single thing together.58100:30:45.860 --> 00:30:49.460And so I'm, I'm so grateful that me and my dad have that relationship where58200:30:49.460 --> 00:30:51.980he's literally second best friend now.58300:30:53.420 --> 00:30:56.700Oh, my wife is my best friend.58400:30:58.580 --> 00:31:04.500Well, for me, man, it's, it's simple, you know you know, for this son, I58500:31:04.500 --> 00:31:04.840prayed.58600:31:06.140 --> 00:31:08.000So you want to talk about that a little bit?58700:31:08.780 --> 00:31:09.120Yeah, man.58800:31:09.160 --> 00:31:11.020I mean, he's, he's one prayer away, man.58900:31:11.700 --> 00:31:13.640And my wife and I, we got married.59000:31:14.540 --> 00:31:19.480My wife had a, had a daughter and it was an honor for me to step59100:31:19.480 --> 00:31:23.860in to be her, her stepfather, now her father and her dad.59200:31:24.520 --> 00:31:28.580But you know, for the first three, four, five years of our marriage, we were59300:31:28.580 --> 00:31:31.560just unsuccessful in having children.59400:31:32.240 --> 00:31:39.200So when I say that, you know, you're one prayer away, you know, that's, that's59500:31:39.200 --> 00:31:42.720not just something that I read, but it's something that I lived.59600:31:43.120 --> 00:31:43.280Yes.59700:31:43.440 --> 00:31:51.080So I'll never forget the day that my wife, you know, took the pregnancy test59800:31:51.080 --> 00:31:54.660through all the different trials and it will be too long to get into.59900:31:54.760 --> 00:31:58.540I was about to say, to say unsuccessful is an understatement.60000:31:58.800 --> 00:31:58.900Yeah.60100:31:59.060 --> 00:32:03.840I mean, cause we, we tried everything from doctors, the IVF to all of the60200:32:03.840 --> 00:32:07.940treatments and it was, it was really just the power of God, just the power of60300:32:07.940 --> 00:32:08.180prayer.60400:32:08.780 --> 00:32:13.900And when she, I remember the first time she took that test and we just jumped60500:32:13.900 --> 00:32:15.920around the house screaming, crying.60600:32:17.000 --> 00:32:24.720And you know, even before, before we were married though, I prayed for my son.60700:32:25.560 --> 00:32:32.480So you know, from the time he was conceived, the time he was born, born in60800:32:32.480 --> 00:32:41.760a car from that car, from that moment, until now, man, this is, this is my60900:32:41.760 --> 00:32:42.100guy.61000:32:42.280 --> 00:32:44.720This is my son in whom I'm well pleased.61100:32:44.960 --> 00:32:51.780So, and I just determined that one of the greatest gifts that God could give to61200:32:51.780 --> 00:32:53.960us is his presence.61300:32:55.120 --> 00:33:00.600And so I determined from, from the very beginning that the greatest gift I'll61400:33:00.600 --> 00:33:03.400give to my son is my presence.61500:33:04.960 --> 00:33:09.240And so I determined that, and sometimes some parents, I want to talk to61600:33:09.240 --> 00:33:14.600fathers, sometimes like you can try to make what you want.61700:33:14.860 --> 00:33:17.040You're trying to get your son to come up to you.61800:33:18.180 --> 00:33:21.840But as a father, I determined that I would, I would be in his space.61900:33:22.060 --> 00:33:28.120I would, I would be with him from the time he was younger until it's like,62000:33:28.140 --> 00:33:30.940I'm always trying to find how can I relate to, to him?62100:33:31.780 --> 00:33:38.040And you know, what happens is that when you do that well, you, you raise62200:33:38.040 --> 00:33:42.360children that not only honor you, but then they determine, well, how can I62300:33:42.360 --> 00:33:44.100relate to my, how can I relate to my father?62400:33:44.820 --> 00:33:48.500And so I, you know, I had, I had a lot of siblings and I saw62500:33:48.500 --> 00:33:54.260a lot of siblings, you know, my siblings that were always trying to get my dad62600:33:54.260 --> 00:33:55.260to this.62700:33:55.300 --> 00:33:58.960And I was like, well, hey, as a son, like, how can I honor him?62800:33:59.000 --> 00:34:00.080How can I bless him?62900:34:00.080 --> 00:34:04.300It was because, you know, I was doing it as well.63000:34:04.640 --> 00:34:10.120So, and from the very beginning of, of my life and my journey, I kind of63100:34:10.120 --> 00:34:17.239always saw myself as like a bridge between, between, you know, generations.63200:34:18.060 --> 00:34:24.460And so even when I think about him now, it's like, I see him, but like,63300:34:24.500 --> 00:34:28.040and I come here every, every Friday night that I'm not traveling somewhere.63400:34:28.380 --> 00:34:34.100It's like, I'm here praying for him, praying with him, whatever he needs.63500:34:34.620 --> 00:34:40.179And I see, I see 300 to 350, sometimes 400 kids in this room, but really63600:34:40.179 --> 00:34:41.440I see 40,000.63700:34:45.909 --> 00:34:46.989I see 40,000.63800:34:48.010 --> 00:34:53.989I'm laughing because PMKT has a tendency to count how many people are in the63900:34:53.989 --> 00:34:54.230room.64000:34:54.630 --> 00:34:55.630Yes, I do.64100:34:56.430 --> 00:34:56.950Hundreds.64200:34:57.510 --> 00:34:58.910No, no, no, no, no.64300:34:59.090 --> 00:35:06.570The counters off, but it's because he's not looking with naturalized.64400:35:06.750 --> 00:35:08.990He's always looking in the supernatural.64500:35:09.210 --> 00:35:15.650And so I remember even when it was 30 students, he wasn't seeing 30 students,64600:35:15.810 --> 00:35:15.930right?64700:35:15.970 --> 00:35:21.330He was seeing the 300 that we have because, because as a father, you see64800:35:21.330 --> 00:35:26.070potential, you see what God has in front, the same way God looks at us and64900:35:26.070 --> 00:35:27.370doesn't see us as we are.65000:35:27.690 --> 00:35:30.930He sees Matthew for everything he's going to be.65100:35:30.990 --> 00:35:35.650He saw Adam and Matt for all the things and drop all the titles and all65200:35:35.650 --> 00:35:35.910of that.65300:35:36.110 --> 00:35:42.510He just sees us for who we can be and then puts all of heaven behind65400:35:42.510 --> 00:35:42.850us.65500:35:43.310 --> 00:35:44.770Thank you guys both for sharing.65600:35:45.370 --> 00:35:46.630My name is Pastor Adam Derso.65700:35:46.650 --> 00:35:51.190I'm sitting here with Matthew Thompson Sr. and Matthew Thompson, about to be65800:35:51.190 --> 00:35:53.570Pastor Matthew Thompson, Youth Pastor here at Jubilee.65900:35:53.990 --> 00:35:55.850Thank you for joining us at Faithly Stories.66000:35:56.250 --> 00:35:56.770God bless you.66100:35:56.830 --> 00:35:57.650We pray this was a blessing.